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Duck Dunn in wrong note shocker?


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[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1507809851' post='3388094']
Ahh.. it's jarring to me. I've just checked and he does it on the original, too.

It must just be me..
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Ha ha, there's a track on Street Legal by Dylan where the bass player plays a howler, it drives me crazy, but no-one else can hear it. Which of course means everyone else is just not as discerning as us :)

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[quote name='Jus Lukin' timestamp='1507810454' post='3388101']
I hear it- the 'sixth' step of the first chord of the mid 8 is played major, but 'ought' to be minor, right?

Or to put it more simply, the highest note of the phrase on that chord should be a semi-tone lower.

I'm saying this without a bass in my hands to check, but that's how it sounds to me.
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^^^ exactly!

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Duck Dunn just about rescues crashing into the first chorus on Sam and Dave's Soul Man.

If the groove was good then the mistakes stayed. Time and tape was expensive back then and most bass lines "disappeared" when you played the record on your Dansette or listened to it on the car radio.

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[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1507813599' post='3388141']
Duck Dunn just about rescues crashing into the first chorus on Sam and Dave's Soul Man.

If the groove was good then the mistakes stayed. Time and tape was expensive back then and most bass lines "disappeared" when you played the record on your Dansette or listened to it on the car radio.
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Absolutely.. it's intriguing he kept it for the BB2000 recording, though. He must have been pretty convinced by it.

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[quote name='The Jaywalker' timestamp='1507818961' post='3388194']
There's zero issue with playing a major 6th over a minor chord. It's absolutely normal. Lots more minor scales out there than Natural Minor/Aeolian ;-)
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Quite. :mellow:

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[quote name='The Jaywalker' timestamp='1507818961' post='3388194']
There's zero issue with playing a major 6th over a minor chord. It's absolutely normal. Lots more minor scales out there than Natural Minor/Aeolian ;-)
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Gah.. it sounds so wishy-washy to my ears.

I actually think he should have pedaled the root on the middle eight. It would have sounded so much better, and maybe the song might have been more of a commercial success.

;)

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[quote name='The Jaywalker' timestamp='1507818961' post='3388194']
There's zero issue with playing a major 6th over a minor chord. It's absolutely normal. Lots more minor scales out there than Natural Minor/Aeolian ;-)
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Indeed!

As I mentioned earlier. Thing is though, I think in this song it's a case of expectancy. The whole song is in D Major (D, G A etc) and the ear expects the Bm move to be Aeolian. So when the Major 6th comes in only in the bass, it's a note "in between the ones" that have been well trodden in the song. It sounds a little odd. No problem with that as an intention but it does sound out of place when we are SO used to the formulaic bile that can fill the popular music charts :)

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[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1507809851' post='3388094']
Ahh.. it's jarring to me. I've just checked and he does it on the original, too.

It must just be me..
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No. As you say, that's on the original, I transcribed it about 10 years ago and it still sounds out of place. If I were in the position of coming up with the line, I would most likely play an A note to suggest Bm7 - G natural would sound even odder against a Bm chord!

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