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Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:04 PM

View Postobbm, on 31 October 2015 - 01:26 PM, said:

I've just been asked to make a cable for a Takstar WGV-601 wireless system ( http://www.amazon.co...M/dp/B006AZDN3A) which seems to be sold by Amazon for about £50, and on Ebay from the Far East.

The spec says that it operates in the 220MHz-270MHz band. Surely this is not legal in the UK?

Hi Dave,
Sorry to be late to the party but you're right - That kit isn't freely usable legally but there seems to be a window of 224.00625 - 224.49375 MHz that could be licensed from OFCOM on a non-interference basis.
The frequency range of that kit clashes with the stuff below (quoted from OFCOM's website):
217.5-230.0 MHz
BROADCASTING


Band allocated to T-DAB.
The band 225-230 MHz agreed for civil use in the NATO band of 225-400 MHz.
PMSE occupies 224.00625-224.49375 MHz on an NIB (non-interference basis) basis.



230.0-328.6 MHz
FIXED
MOBILE
Radiolocation
Radio Astronomy
Mobile Satellite
S5.111, S5.199, S5.254, S5.255, S5.256


Government
Radio Astronomy uses the band 232.0-236.0 MHz at Darnhall, Defford, Jodrell Bank, Knockin, Pickmere, and Wardle. The band 326.5-328.5 MHz is used at Jodrell Bank.
EPIRBs operate on 243.0 MHz.
Mobile Satellite Services operate in the band 312.0-315.0 MHz on a secondary basis.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 05:48 PM

With the plethora of UHF mics on 863-865 and 2.4Ghz, are the free VHF bands now less crowded with less interference? Is the equipment good enough?

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 10:43 PM

View PostChienmortbb, on 18 April 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

With the plethora of UHF mics on 863-865 and 2.4Ghz, are the free VHF bands now less crowded with less interference? Is the equipment good enough?

Hi Chienmortbb,

If you can find some good quality gear there's nothing wrong with VHF at all. The only downside is that you can only use 3, possibly 4, frequencies at once in the available RF spectrum.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 10:59 PM

Thanks Jon. Are we talking old Shure, Sennheiser, Trantec etc rather than the cheap new ones n EBay?

Edited by Chienmortbb, 18 April 2016 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 08:49 PM

View PostChienmortbb, on 18 April 2016 - 10:59 PM, said:

Thanks Jon. Are we talking old Shure, Sennheiser, Trantec etc rather than the cheap new ones n EBay?

Yes, that stuff is all good. I'm not sure of any newer VHF stuff but I have heard that there's digital systems being developed in the VHF range so that will be an interesting development.
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Posted 12 May 2016 - 09:43 PM

Numark are about to release a digital system I'm the 863/865 MHz band, I will let you know how it performs.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:03 PM

View PostChienmortbb, on 12 May 2016 - 09:43 PM, said:

Numark are about to release a digital system I'm the 863/865 MHz band, I will let you know how it performs.
Surely if I play at home wireless know will ever know?
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Posted 01 July 2016 - 08:44 PM

View PostSH73, on 01 July 2016 - 08:03 PM, said:

Surely if I play at home wireless know will ever know?
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Posted 02 July 2016 - 07:03 AM

View PostNoisyjon, on 01 July 2016 - 08:44 PM, said:


?
Predictive text. If I played with wireless system at home, surely the licence law does not apply. Or does it?
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Steve Harris signature P-bass, Royal Blue MIJ, fitted with SPB-4
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Squier telecaster electric guitar black with white pickguard, maple neck
Cruzer electric guitar, rosewood neck, sunburst with pearl white tortoise pickguard

Fender Rumble 100w
Hartke DI pedal

Fender Mustang 1
Ibanez TS-9
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Posted 02 July 2016 - 09:59 AM

View PostSH73, on 02 July 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:

Predictive text. If I played with wireless system at home, surely the licence law does not apply. Or does it?

Yes

You may own your home, but you don't own the frequency spectrum.
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Posted 02 July 2016 - 10:17 AM

View PostSH73, on 02 July 2016 - 07:03 AM, said:


Predictive text. If I played with wireless system at home, surely the licence law does not apply. Or does it?

Ha ha, fair enough!

If you're transmitting lower than 862 MHz then legally you need a licence of some kind, regardless.

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 10:42 AM

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Yes

You may own your home, but you don't own the frequency spectrum.

Disagreed, nothing but electromagnetic waves as they occur in space and in the everyday environment.They are not tangible and not manufactured.
Gear:

Steve Harris signature P-bass, Royal Blue MIJ, fitted with SPB-4
Squier C vibe jazz bass, white with tortoise pickguard and Seymour Duncan pickups, rosewood neck
Squier Matt Freeman with fitted SPB-4, vintage white with maple neck

Squier telecaster electric guitar black with white pickguard, maple neck
Cruzer electric guitar, rosewood neck, sunburst with pearl white tortoise pickguard

Fender Rumble 100w
Hartke DI pedal

Fender Mustang 1
Ibanez TS-9
Cry baby wah pedal

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 11:18 AM

Reading back, I don't think anybody has mentioned 823-832 and 1785-1805 that are now included in the 606-614 shared mic license (as of March 2015)

Edited by EBS_freak, 02 July 2016 - 11:18 AM.


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Posted 02 July 2016 - 11:32 AM

View PostSH73, on 02 July 2016 - 10:42 AM, said:

Disagreed, nothing but electromagnetic waves as they occur in space and in the everyday environment.They are not tangible and not manufactured.

No point in arguing semantics with me, I'm just telling you how it is.
If you think it's wrong or unfair then its OFCOM you need to take it up with. :)
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Posted 02 July 2016 - 01:33 PM

View Posticastle, on 02 July 2016 - 11:32 AM, said:



No point in arguing semantics with me, I'm just telling you how it is.
If you think it's wrong or unfair then its OFCOM you need to take it up with. :)
No intention to argue. It's like the government wants to charge to breath air. No idea who IFCOM are but reckon it's an agency that had the electromagnetic field pattended.
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Steve Harris signature P-bass, Royal Blue MIJ, fitted with SPB-4
Squier C vibe jazz bass, white with tortoise pickguard and Seymour Duncan pickups, rosewood neck
Squier Matt Freeman with fitted SPB-4, vintage white with maple neck

Squier telecaster electric guitar black with white pickguard, maple neck
Cruzer electric guitar, rosewood neck, sunburst with pearl white tortoise pickguard

Fender Rumble 100w
Hartke DI pedal

Fender Mustang 1
Ibanez TS-9
Cry baby wah pedal

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 01:42 PM

View PostEBS_freak, on 02 July 2016 - 11:18 AM, said:

Reading back, I don't think anybody has mentioned 823-832 and 1785-1805 that are now included in the 606-614 shared mic license (as of March 2015)

Good call EBS_freak, I'll update the OP.
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Posted 02 July 2016 - 02:00 PM

View PostSH73, on 02 July 2016 - 01:33 PM, said:

No intention to argue. It's like the government wants to charge to breath air. No idea who IFCOM are but reckon it's an agency that had the electromagnetic field pattended.

I get your point SH73 but working in the field I can only say we are spoiled by having OFCOM managing radio spectrum for us.
In the EU and especially the USA it's a very different story in terms of time & cost implications trying to clear frequency space to use.
IMO&E the charge for the Channel 38 license is well worth it knowing you're good to go, interference free (from Freeview, 4G, etc), UK wide.
I guess this is where the 2.4 GHz equipment neatly caters for those that don't want to pay for a license and where it doesn't matter e.g. jamming at home.
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Posted 02 July 2016 - 07:20 PM

View PostNoisyjon, on 02 July 2016 - 02:00 PM, said:



I get your point SH73 but working in the field I can only say we are spoiled by having OFCOM managing radio spectrum for us.
In the EU and especially the USA it's a very different story in terms of time & cost implications trying to clear frequency space to use.
IMO&E the charge for the Channel 38 license is well worth it knowing you're good to go, interference free (from Freeview, 4G, etc), UK wide.
I guess this is where the 2.4 GHz equipment neatly caters for those that don't want to pay for a license and where it doesn't matter e.g. jamming at home.

Makes sense

Edited by SH73, 02 July 2016 - 07:20 PM.

Gear:

Steve Harris signature P-bass, Royal Blue MIJ, fitted with SPB-4
Squier C vibe jazz bass, white with tortoise pickguard and Seymour Duncan pickups, rosewood neck
Squier Matt Freeman with fitted SPB-4, vintage white with maple neck

Squier telecaster electric guitar black with white pickguard, maple neck
Cruzer electric guitar, rosewood neck, sunburst with pearl white tortoise pickguard

Fender Rumble 100w
Hartke DI pedal

Fender Mustang 1
Ibanez TS-9
Cry baby wah pedal





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