tauzero Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='bassicinstinct' post='147928' date='Feb 27 2008, 04:16 PM']Remember: [b]"The smiley face EQ is your enemy"[/b][/quote] I HEART the smiley face EQ. The love that dare not speak its name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='bass_ferret' post='148024' date='Feb 27 2008, 06:44 PM']Roadkill! Pick em up on the way. If there is not enough elevation go for badgers.[/quote] recycling... good man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesemt Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='Happy Jack' post='148090' date='Feb 27 2008, 08:49 PM']To prop up your combo so it faces up towards you, like a stage monitor. Do try to keep up ... [/quote] I got that bit...but are we getting into the realms of Monty Python or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Ecky-ecky-ecky-ptang-zoop -boing-bigwam-ohhh, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguyhomer Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='Jamesemt' post='148076' date='Feb 27 2008, 07:59 PM']Sorry, you've lost me [/quote] Sorry James - it's just my pathetic sense of humour. I was just implying that if you placed a dead rabbit under the front of your cab to angle it back, you'd be able to hare yourself better, that's all mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='BOD2' post='147941' date='Feb 27 2008, 04:36 PM']Try to rehearse with the volumes as low as possible (this is usually limited by the drummer who can't really turn down !).[/quote] +1 for that. Our drummer uses sticks called 'Hot Rods' or 'Lightning Rods' or somesuch, they look like a bundle of very think sticks. Apparently they give the same feel but a lot less volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 All drummers can play louder or quieter. If this one won't or hasn't learnt how to, get another drummer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='niceguyhomer' post='148343' date='Feb 28 2008, 12:10 PM']I was just implying that if you placed a dead rabbit under the front of your cab to angle it back, you'd be able to [color="#FF0000"][b]hare [/b][/color]yourself better, that's all mate.[/quote] Homer, was that deliberate? You should be ashamed of yourself ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordRaven Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Of course it was deliberate! The punnage is hurting me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguyhomer Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Sorry fellas - couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgie Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='pete.young' post='148355' date='Feb 28 2008, 12:33 PM']+1 for that. Our drummer uses sticks called 'Hot Rods' or 'Lightning Rods' or somesuch, they look like a bundle of very think sticks. Apparently they give the same feel but a lot less volume.[/quote] Yeah, they're called brushes. The drummer I played with when we did "Fame" had to use them because he was drowing out the singers, let alone the rest of the band! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='Higgie' post='148421' date='Feb 28 2008, 02:39 PM']Yeah, they're called brushes. The drummer I played with when we did "Fame" had to use them because he was drowing out the singers, let alone the rest of the band![/quote] No, not brushes! I meant something like this: [url="http://www.stagebeat.co.uk/index.php?page_id=418"]http://www.stagebeat.co.uk/index.php?page_id=418[/url] Underneath 'Gorilla Snot'. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='pete.young' post='148355' date='Feb 28 2008, 12:33 PM']Our drummer uses sticks called 'Hot Rods' or 'Lightning Rods' or somesuch, they look like a bundle of very think sticks.[/quote] Think? Is that a cross between thick and thin? Or is it simply an unnatural pastime for a drummer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 [quote name='tauzero' post='148450' date='Feb 28 2008, 03:22 PM']Think? Is that a cross between thick and thin? Or is it simply an unnatural pastime for a drummer?[/quote] Aaagh, the spelling police. It's a fair cop guvnor, you got me bang to rights. Sorry, must have been a Freudian slip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesemt Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Thanks for all the replies - will try out the suggestions tomorrow night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinbass7750 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 [quote name='niceguyhomer' post='148343' date='Feb 28 2008, 12:10 PM']Sorry James - it's just my pathetic sense of humour. I was just implying that if you placed a dead rabbit under the front of your cab to angle it back, you'd be able to hare yourself better, that's all mate.[/quote] glad you explained it, I'd totally missed the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhsteel Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Am I missing something? Why not just turn the volume knob up past 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Didn't some guy try that in Market Rasen the other night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cooke Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 [quote name='Jamesemt' post='148075' date='Feb 27 2008, 07:58 PM']I think I was stood a bit too far away, with my rig blocked by the guitarist.[/quote] that's your problem... you let a guitarist get in between you and your rig... guitarists are very dense and block sound very well... you may find this amusing, but our church has just put in a new PA and dedicated a channel for me so now I can get away with pointing my 10 watt practice amp at my head as a monitor and letting the PA do the rest... and I play right next to the drummer... (Olly, the drummer, can actually play quietly... he's a marvel... no you can't have him...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesemt Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Problem sorted Turned the volume up to 8 (also known as fecking loud), and moved the guitarist Wow plenty of volume, shame the cab sounded so farty...think I'll be taking my own gear in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBomber414 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 It's a fact that some drum kits are a lot louder than others. I think they call them 'projection kits' When they hit a drum and it's like the stick has just been pushed through your ear it's time to get another drummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 I find its the higher end of the cymbals and guitars that mean i cant hear the bass as well. move away from the drummer. Gutiraists are dim. make sure their amps are pointing at them and not at you. Often if you turn them down the drummer deosnt feel he has to play as loud. Or if the drummer has a monitor turn that down.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesemt Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 [quote name='LukeFRC' post='149694' date='Mar 2 2008, 02:11 AM']I find its the higher end of the cymbals and guitars that mean i cant hear the bass as well. move away from the drummer. Gutiraists are dim. make sure their amps are pointing at them and not at you. Often if you turn them down the drummer deosnt feel he has to play as loud. Or if the drummer has a monitor turn that down....[/quote] Nah, no monitors - we are all born agains (makes more sense if you're a biker...). Couple of issues with the drummer - he hasn't played for a year (so is probably still letting off a bit of steam), and it's a cheapo kit which is in the rehearsal room - the ride is particularly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Jamesemt' post='147908' date='Feb 27 2008, 03:49 PM']I decided a couple of weeks ago to start a band. Got a few members together last night for our first rehearsal. Problem is, I can't hear myself with a loud drummer... Where does everyone place their gear in relation to where they stand? I had my amp on the other side of the room and moved over to stand next to the drummer. The drummer said he could hear me fine?? I seem to really like a traditional thumpy bass sound, but play rock...should I just bite the bullet and thin out the sound with the tone? I did try that in desperation, but it just sounded thin and honky. BTW the rig is way up to the job - maybe I should have turned it up above 4...but without the drums it sounds really loud - it's just when you add a guitar to the noise that I can't hear myself. This is my first real attempt at playing bass to a higher standard in a band - played guitars for years in different bands, and never had this problem The cab was quite low on the floor - would lifting it up to my ear level help?[/quote] I agree with most of what's gone before, except reckon on always being right in front of my bass, close as poss. The idea is not to listen to your sound but to feel it through your backside. Listening is a bit like looking at your fretboard - don't do it. Look away and trust your fingers. Hard at the beginning, but, like learning to touchtype, much better in the end. Learn to feel that rumble through your pants - it's better than straining your ears. The more you listen, the less you hear. Hot rods are great, but try getting your drummer to use them.... You'll have to buy him loads and he'll belt away with them trying to be as loud as before! Best practices I get are with me on vol.1, guitarist on his acoustic & drummer on brushes. We can talk to each other while playing! But then we're not trying to prove anything to each other - or pretending it's a gig. We're just learning our parts, getting it together. Sack the drummer. And the guitarist. Sack 'em all. Go solo. Everyone loves bass solos... Edited March 4, 2008 by dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike257 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Our practice room is loud as sin, it's been crippling my poor ears for ages. Our drummer is a proper rock monster, and there's three guitarists, so I've had some hearing issues myself. Finally gone back to wearing ear plugs, and the difference it's made is incredible. Not only has my head stopped ringing after every rehearsal, but the clarity in everything is so much better. I can hear me, but I can hear exactly where the drummer is heading too (usually off on a tangent somewhere ), so it might be worth trying that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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