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#1 daz

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:33 AM

Has anyone got the notes of that short but haunting piano refrain in the 1946 film a matter of life and death.? (the one where David Niven crashes in a plane but fails to be seen by his guide to the afterlife because of a thick english channel fog) I know it is short & should be easy to guess at, and it might well be on the piano, but not on my bass ?


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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:07 AM

Cant help with the music but A matter of life and death is my all time favourite film ever!!

Call me an old softy :)

It was made as a propaganda tool to get American sympathy before they jouined the war but still its an amazing feat of cinematography and the love story is sublime. Oh and yep the music is very haunting particularly the 'going up the stairway to heaven' piano bit. Which I think your refering to.
And finally..... I do have a bit of a soft spot for Kathleen Byron:
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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:37 AM

If you can wait til tonight I'll get my wife to play it on piano. She can just hear a melody and repeat it.
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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:00 PM

View Postapa, on 15 December 2011 - 09:07 AM, said:

Cant help with the music but A matter of life and death is my all time favourite film ever!!

Call me an old softy :D

It was made as a propaganda tool to get American sympathy before they jouined the war but still its an amazing feat of cinematography and the love story is sublime. Oh and yep the music is very haunting particularly the 'going up the stairway to heaven' piano bit. Which I think your refering to.
And finally..... I do have a bit of a soft spot for Kathleen Byron:
http://en.wikipedia..../Kathleen_Byron

Just sayin :rolleyes:

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One of my favourites too. But wasn't it released in 1946, 4 years after the yanks had joined in and a year after the war had ended?
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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:09 PM

View PostNibody, on 15 December 2011 - 06:00 PM, said:

One of my favourites too. But wasn't it released in 1946, 4 years after the yanks had joined in and a year after the war had ended?

Your right!! I must have misread it somewere or was about another film!! Hmmm Ill have a search for where I saw it <_<

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Anglo-American relations
The film was originally suggested by a British government department to improve relations between the Americans in the UK and the British public [10] following Powell and Pressburger's contributions to this sphere in A Canterbury Tale two years earlier, though neither film received any government funding nor input on plot or production. There was a degree of hostility against the American servicemen stationed in the UK for the invasion of Europe. They were viewed in some quarters as latecomers to the war and as "overpaid, oversexed and over here" by a public that had suffered three years of bombing and rationing, with many of their own men fighting abroad. The premise of the film is a simple inversion: The English pilot gets the pretty American woman rather than the other way round, and the only national bigotry is voiced by the first American casualty of the Revolutionary War against the British. Raymond Massey, portraying an American, was a Canadian national at the time the film was made, but became a naturalised American citizen afterward.


Hey I was close (ish) B)

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Edited by apa, 15 December 2011 - 06:27 PM.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 07:38 PM

still a bloody good film either way, nowt like a good classic weepie!
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Posted 16 December 2011 - 08:55 AM

View PostNibody, on 15 December 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

still a bloody good film either way, nowt like a good classic weepie!

Dare I mention Good by Mr Chips :rolleyes: (The original of course)

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 10:36 AM

View Postapa, on 16 December 2011 - 08:55 AM, said:

Dare I mention Good by Mr Chips :rolleyes: (The original of course)

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Yep, seen that one a few times. Think my all time favourite has to be "Its a Wonderful Life". Has a lot of personal meaning to me, and alongside David Niven, Jimmy Stewart was one of my favourite actors.
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Posted 16 December 2011 - 04:53 PM

View PostNibody, on 16 December 2011 - 10:36 AM, said:

Yep, seen that one a few times. Think my all time favourite has to be "Its a Wonderful Life". Has a lot of personal meaning to me, and alongside David Niven, Jimmy Stewart was one of my favourite actors.

Would you believe Ive never seen it!! Supposed to be quit dark and gritty isnt it? Its usually the case with classics where they drop into parady and derided but when you actually watch them they is far more to them than the cleche they are made out to be.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:17 AM

View PostCyrene, on 15 December 2011 - 09:37 AM, said:

If you can wait til tonight I'll get my wife to play it on piano. She can just hear a melody and repeat it.

Well a week has gone by, so im asuming she couldnt get her head around this one ?
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 09:40 AM

I love Powell and Pressburger films - I've got the collection on DVD. Ill Met by Moonlight, A Matter of Life and Death and A Canterbury Tale are amazing films, only restricted by the technology of the time.

I love the part in A Canterbury Tale (my favourite) where the organist at Canterbury Cathedral tells Dennis Price, 'Don't swing it!' as he plays for the troop's leaving service. If you haven't seen these films and can cope with black and white, check them out.
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 01:37 PM

The Red Shoes was always a fave P&P as was this film. The piano always made me feel on edge and tense, which I suppose it was meant to.
I expect with so many grieving families at the time, it had a far deeper emotional impact than now,with everyone desperately hoping he got to live, unlike their Husband brother son etc
Nice to see classic film scores getting a look in.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:42 PM

View Postdaz, on 22 December 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

Well a week has gone by, so im asuming she couldnt get her head around this one ?
she wouldn't have a problem no, but that's my memory for not asking her... soz!
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