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Posted 23 December 2011 - 04:57 AM

Another in my series of impossible to find bass tabs/notation/anything! here is The New Avengers theme music it starts at around 30 seconds in. Listen to it its pretty cool and definately imposible to find any way of finding out the bass line for a non reader like me. I have tried my best at picking the bass out by ear and cant get anywhere near it. Can anyone help ?



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Posted 23 December 2011 - 05:25 AM

It'ss tricky cos it's really flat, tuned to well below 440 (at least to my ears), this sounds pretty decent to me:

G:-----------6-4---------:
D:-----------------6-4---:
A:-4-444-4-----------7-:
E:-------------------------:

That's tuned about 40 cents flat, tune about as low as your tuner will go and still be the same note and it should sound more or less right.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 06:14 AM

There was a really good cover of this tune by Snowboy and the Latin Section, you may find that on the web or itunes etc.

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Another in my series of impossible to find bass tabs/notation/anything! here is The New Avengers theme music it starts at around 30 seconds in. Listen to it its pretty cool and definately imposible to find any way of finding out the bass line for a non reader like me. I have tried my best at picking the bass out by ear and cant get anywhere near it. Can anyone help ?




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Posted 23 December 2011 - 07:03 AM

View Postbobbass4k, on 23 December 2011 - 05:25 AM, said:

That's tuned about 40 cents flat, tune about as low as your tuner will go and still be the same note and it should sound more or less right.

maybe it was played on a fretless bass or a double bass ?
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 07:09 AM

View Postdaz, on 23 December 2011 - 07:03 AM, said:

maybe it was played on a fretless bass or a double bass ?

Maybe but it sounds in tune with the song, they might have all tuned to an off tuned piano, or it might have been rerecorded at a slightly lower speed, apparently that was quite common with in the old days of tape.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 08:39 AM

I swear it was theme tunes like this one that planted the seed in the back of my mind about me playing bass :)

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 08:40 AM

View Postbobbass4k, on 23 December 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

Maybe but it sounds in tune with the song, they might have all tuned to an off tuned piano, or it might have been rerecorded at a slightly lower speed, apparently that was quite common with in the old days of tape.

It was recorded by the Laurie Johnson Orchestra, who were one of the worlds top orchestras of the time for recording all sorts of theme tunes and film scores.
Here is one of his many albums
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:36 AM

Almost certainly "varispeeded". A very common technique in recording studios in the 60's and 70's, and the source of enormous frustration for covers band musicians ever since. The Beatles were particularly notorious for this.

A perfect example is the song Revolution. Listen to the album version (The White Album) and you get a stately pace played in A. For the single they wanted a rather rockier version which they recorded, but it didn't feel right so they speeded it up unti it did feel right. It's now in A#-and-a-half. :lol:
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 12:34 PM

Definitely on my "inspired youth" list.
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 01:35 PM

View Postbobbass4k, on 23 December 2011 - 05:25 AM, said:

It'ss tricky cos it's really flat, tuned to well below 440 (at least to my ears), this sounds pretty decent to me:

G:-----------6-4---------:
D:-----------------6-4---:
A:-4-444-4-----------7-:
E:-------------------------:

That's tuned about 40 cents flat, tune about as low as your tuner will go and still be the same note and it should sound more or less right.

this is how i play it too :)

brilliant tune.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:26 PM

View Postahpook, on 23 December 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

this is how i play it too :)

brilliant tune.

what about the bit at around 50 seconds where it moves up the scale for several bars ?
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:28 PM

Theme from jason king is better laurie johnson did this as well.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:29 PM

View Postdaz, on 23 December 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

what about the bit at around 50 seconds where it moves up the scale for several bars ?

i try to act natural, but failing that, smile and act convincing

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:48 PM

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i try to act natural, but failing that, smile and act convincing

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 04:47 PM

View PostYouMa, on 23 December 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Theme from jason king is better laurie johnson did this as well.

Surely that was by Geoff Love & orchestra and very pedestrian effort compared to the Department S theme which itself was not IMHO as good as the original avengers theme :)

Edited by daz, 23 December 2011 - 04:57 PM.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 05:18 PM

Has anyone else noticed the nice little bass bits that are used as incidental music on the old series "The Sweeney".
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Posted 22 October 2013 - 10:46 AM

it was actually Herbie flowers that played the bass on that theme as well as others like the professionals the group laurie Johnson used was the Blue mink club. he has taken part in over 500 recordings for tv etc he also wrote the tune for the novelty hit Grandad for clive dunn. talented man. he used a 1960 jazz bass.

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 04:07 PM

im not sure cos i'm at work right now but i think the avengers thing is

G:-----------6-4---------:
D:-----------------6-4---:
A:-4-444-7-----------6-:
E:-------------------------:

at least on some loops

sometmes miiight be

G:-----------6-4---------:
D:-----------------6-4---:
A:-4-444-6-----------6-:
E:-------------------------:

Like you said, its hard cos its old muffley 70s tuning and tone,





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