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[Clarky72]

How about an Ampeg BA500? Lovely sounding combo. As it happens I know a very nice man who has one for sale!

http://basschat.co.u...-ba500-for-sale

[EdwardHimself]

Clarky72, on 13 January 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

How about an Ampeg BA500? Lovely sounding combo. As it happens I know a very nice man who has one for sale!

http://basschat.co.u...-ba500-for-sale

Nice try lol.

[rubis]

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Kiwi


Posted Today, 08:30 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for a Super Champ clone?

............don't do it, there's enough tribute bands out there already

[Kiwi]

Oh..you krazee guyzzzzz!!

[Clarky72]

EdwardHimself, on 13 January 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Nice try lol.

A man's gotta try eh? ;-)

[Ancient Mariner]

Kiwi, on 13 January 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Does anyone have any suggestions for a Super Champ clone?

I'm not quite sure which model you mean by superchamp (unless it's the modelling thingy) but considering where you live you might have a root through here: http://www.ceriatone.com/index.htm

[Kiwi]

One of the Rivera-designed Fender Super Champ combos

[Kiwi]

http://www.ceriatone...CChampUltra.htm

Thanks for the link BTW, how about this?

[Bassnut62]

Check out these Champ clones
http://www.vintagean...011-Tweed-11851
I just picked one up used for £129 and it is stunning! All tube,including rectifier. Circuits based on the best Champ from '57. Stunning, stunning, stunning! How can that much tone come out of 5w and 8" spkr?

[Kiwi]

A demo here of C.Agnew amps.

[Kiwi]

C.Agnew tele through one of the tweed amps.


Compare it with the real thing here:


The C.agnew sounds harsh to my ears.

[Kiwi]

This is what I'm after...really sweet sounding with a nice scoop.

[Bassnut62]

In the flesh, the Agnew is a lot sweeter than it sounds on the demo. I wouldn't argue though that that Agnew Gtr and amp will not be quite as good as a decent Fender Tele and a Fender Blackface Champ.

The Fender set up would probably cost at least four times more than the Agnew set up tho.

I reckon the Agnew Champ is a seriously nice little amp tho and a simple Jensen alnico speaker and valve upgrade would probably sweeten it up even more and still be only quarter the price of a real Blackface Champ.

If I could afford it I would take the real deal anytime of course!

Edited by Bassnut62, 16 January 2012 - 08:08 PM.

[kristinaelias]

Small tube combo = AC30. Nah, never, not in a billion years. I had a 1964 AC30 and had to reluctantly sell it as it was far too loud for home use to get THAT tone
Fortunately I also managed to bag myself an ebay bargain £293 AC15 CC1X before Christmas and I'm still wearing the stupid GAS grin now! It's fabulous and works extremely well with my Strat, Tele, Les Paul and even Burns Double 6. It's incredibly versitile and because it's the 'X' version = has Celestion Blue as opposed to those dreadful, dull as ditchwater Greenback things, it has oodles of THAT tone at sensible volumes. Ironically now that I've got the tone I want I don't seem to be playing that quietly either, but still have bags of room on the Vol & Top Boost chicken heads to go! Yes, I'm probably a Vox snob, but if you ain't heard a Vox with Blues, you just ain't heard the Vox tone.

Edited by kristinaelias, 18 February 2012 - 10:25 AM.

[Wil]

Well, the AC30 arrived, and man, it's heavy! But, it has a master volume, and it sounds damn fine at low volumes to me. Better than any amp I've ever played though, that's for sure! Very responsive.

It's looking more and more likely that I'll be playing guitar in a band situation soon, so I'm looking forward to cranking this thing up!

[Bassnut62]

Re the Fender Super Champ demo above.
I reckon we at comparing chalk and cheese....
The Fender Tele is actually a G&L Asat Special which is very different from the Tele Deluxe with HBs clone in the Agnew demo.

Fender Champ sounds like it is pegged back for a cleaner and sweeter tone and it is being driven by those incredible and very powerful G&L MFD overwound single coil pups. Whereas the Agnew is at full blast saturation fuzz levels and driven by clone humbuckers. No comparison I reckon.

[skankdelvar]

To be fair, the sound on those Agnew / Superchamp vids is pretty awful. I'm sure they both sound lovelier in the flesh. In any case a Tweed Champ is a seriously different beast to a Superchamp - circuits here:

http://www.stratopastor.org.uk/strato/amps/twoseriesfenders/super_champ_schematic.jpg
http://www.classictubeamps.com/Champ%20A.JPG

The Superchamp may indeed cost 4 times more than the Agnew but one (possible) justification is that it's got 5,887 more components and eighteen miles more wire. But which sounds better is very much a matter of taste and preference.

For example, I love the 'Tweed' sound on record, but it always seems very muddy 'in the room', which is how I've (thankfully) avoided laying out silly money on those occasions when the Tweed GAS has struck.

[kristinaelias]

Anyone else think that the Fender Excelsior amp, just launched at NAMM, might be just the ticket? (Going back to the thread meaning small, not AC30 small) 14w and 15" with multi-imputs for 'instrument', 'mic' and 'accordian'? Youtube have a couple of demos up already. As a guitarist who wants to learn bass I'm getting rather hot under the collar about the potential of this amp to get that oldschool P sound. What do you think, am I dreaming and just having another GAS attack?

[Bassnut62]

That F Exelcsior sounds interesting.
Can you put bass thru it and is it all valve?

I've been using my F Blues Jnr for occasional bass at low volume with valves; but I'm not sure it's happy about it.

[kristinaelias]

That's what I'm trying to establish, can/should it be used for bass. The 15" and multi application (in terms of inputs) seems to imply it might. Oh did I mention it also has built in tremolo? I know we're talking home use only here given the 14w, but that's all I'm looking for right now, just with valve tone. Someone at NAMM read this and go and find out for me! Ta