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Posted 13 January 2012 - 08:33 PM

How about an Ampeg BA500? Lovely sounding combo. As it happens I know a very nice man who has one for sale!

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:23 PM

View PostClarky72, on 13 January 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

How about an Ampeg BA500? Lovely sounding combo. As it happens I know a very nice man who has one for sale!

http://basschat.co.u...-ba500-for-sale

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:15 PM

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Does anyone have any suggestions for a Super Champ clone?



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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:36 PM

Oh..you krazee guyzzzzz!!
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:37 PM

View PostEdwardHimself, on 13 January 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Nice try lol.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 07:59 PM

View PostKiwi, on 13 January 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Does anyone have any suggestions for a Super Champ clone?

I'm not quite sure which model you mean by superchamp (unless it's the modelling thingy) but considering where you live you might have a root through here: http://www.ceriatone.com/index.htm
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:04 PM

One of the Rivera-designed Fender Super Champ combos

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 08:17 PM

http://www.ceriatone...CChampUltra.htm

Thanks for the link BTW, how about this?
Bass: '79 Alembic Series 1 graphite, '75 Fender Jazz, '78 Musicman Stingray, '86 Pangborn Warlord graphite, '93 Pedulla Pentabuzz, '09 Shuker Headless 6 MIDI (signed by Lee Sklar),'00 Spector NS5CR, '90 Status Series 5000 plus...two self builds on the way. Zoom B3 into two Genz Benz Shuttle 6's and two Fearless F112's.
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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:55 PM

Check out these Champ clones
http://www.vintagean...011-Tweed-11851
I just picked one up used for 129 and it is stunning! All tube,including rectifier. Circuits based on the best Champ from '57. Stunning, stunning, stunning! How can that much tone come out of 5w and 8" spkr?
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:58 AM



A demo here of C.Agnew amps.
Bass: '79 Alembic Series 1 graphite, '75 Fender Jazz, '78 Musicman Stingray, '86 Pangborn Warlord graphite, '93 Pedulla Pentabuzz, '09 Shuker Headless 6 MIDI (signed by Lee Sklar),'00 Spector NS5CR, '90 Status Series 5000 plus...two self builds on the way. Zoom B3 into two Genz Benz Shuttle 6's and two Fearless F112's.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:11 AM

C.Agnew tele through one of the tweed amps.


Compare it with the real thing here:


The C.agnew sounds harsh to my ears.
Bass: '79 Alembic Series 1 graphite, '75 Fender Jazz, '78 Musicman Stingray, '86 Pangborn Warlord graphite, '93 Pedulla Pentabuzz, '09 Shuker Headless 6 MIDI (signed by Lee Sklar),'00 Spector NS5CR, '90 Status Series 5000 plus...two self builds on the way. Zoom B3 into two Genz Benz Shuttle 6's and two Fearless F112's.
Guitar: Chandler HSS Strat with solid quilted maple body (signed by Nile Rodgers), Klein copy with sustainer, Yamaha MSG Deluxe (blonde), Yamaha MSG deluxe (sunburst), Lexicon MPXG2, Ibanez TSA5 x2 and Burman Pro 501 50w combo

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:12 AM

This is what I'm after...really sweet sounding with a nice scoop.


Bass: '79 Alembic Series 1 graphite, '75 Fender Jazz, '78 Musicman Stingray, '86 Pangborn Warlord graphite, '93 Pedulla Pentabuzz, '09 Shuker Headless 6 MIDI (signed by Lee Sklar),'00 Spector NS5CR, '90 Status Series 5000 plus...two self builds on the way. Zoom B3 into two Genz Benz Shuttle 6's and two Fearless F112's.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 08:07 PM

In the flesh, the Agnew is a lot sweeter than it sounds on the demo. I wouldn't argue though that that Agnew Gtr and amp will not be quite as good as a decent Fender Tele and a Fender Blackface Champ.

The Fender set up would probably cost at least four times more than the Agnew set up tho.

I reckon the Agnew Champ is a seriously nice little amp tho and a simple Jensen alnico speaker and valve upgrade would probably sweeten it up even more and still be only quarter the price of a real Blackface Champ.

If I could afford it I would take the real deal anytime of course!

Edited by Bassnut62, 16 January 2012 - 08:08 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:18 PM

Small tube combo = AC30. Nah, never, not in a billion years. I had a 1964 AC30 and had to reluctantly sell it as it was far too loud for home use to get THAT tone
Fortunately I also managed to bag myself an ebay bargain £293 AC15 CC1X before Christmas :D and I'm still wearing the stupid GAS grin now! It's fabulous and works extremely well with my Strat, Tele, Les Paul and even Burns Double 6. It's incredibly versitile and because it's the 'X' version = has Celestion Blue as opposed to those dreadful, dull as ditchwater Greenback things, it has oodles of THAT tone at sensible volumes. Ironically now that I've got the tone I want I don't seem to be playing that quietly either, but still have bags of room on the Vol & Top Boost chicken heads to go! Yes, I'm probably a Vox snob, but if you ain't heard a Vox with Blues, you just ain't heard the Vox tone.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:49 PM

Well, the AC30 arrived, and man, it's heavy! But, it has a master volume, and it sounds damn fine at low volumes to me. Better than any amp I've ever played though, that's for sure! Very responsive.

It's looking more and more likely that I'll be playing guitar in a band situation soon, so I'm looking forward to cranking this thing up!

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 11:52 AM

Re the Fender Super Champ demo above.
I reckon we at comparing chalk and cheese....
The Fender Tele is actually a G&L Asat Special which is very different from the Tele Deluxe with HBs clone in the Agnew demo.

Fender Champ sounds like it is pegged back for a cleaner and sweeter tone and it is being driven by those incredible and very powerful G&L MFD overwound single coil pups. Whereas the Agnew is at full blast saturation fuzz levels and driven by clone humbuckers. No comparison I reckon.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:50 AM

To be fair, the sound on those Agnew / Superchamp vids is pretty awful. I'm sure they both sound lovelier in the flesh. In any case a Tweed Champ is a seriously different beast to a Superchamp - circuits here:

http://www.stratopastor.org.uk/strato/amps/twoseriesfenders/super_champ_schematic.jpg
http://www.classictubeamps.com/Champ%20A.JPG

The Superchamp may indeed cost 4 times more than the Agnew but one (possible) justification is that it's got 5,887 more components and eighteen miles more wire. But which sounds better is very much a matter of taste and preference.

For example, I love the 'Tweed' sound on record, but it always seems very muddy 'in the room', which is how I've (thankfully) avoided laying out silly money on those occasions when the Tweed GAS has struck.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:14 AM

Anyone else think that the Fender Excelsior amp, just launched at NAMM, might be just the ticket? (Going back to the thread meaning small, not AC30 small) 14w and 15" with multi-imputs for 'instrument', 'mic' and 'accordian'? Youtube have a couple of demos up already. As a guitarist who wants to learn bass I'm getting rather hot under the collar about the potential of this amp to get that oldschool P sound. What do you think, am I dreaming and just having another GAS attack?

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:30 AM

That F Exelcsior sounds interesting.
Can you put bass thru it and is it all valve?

I've been using my F Blues Jnr for occasional bass at low volume with valves; but I'm not sure it's happy about it.
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:49 AM

That's what I'm trying to establish, can/should it be used for bass. The 15" and multi application (in terms of inputs) seems to imply it might. Oh did I mention it also has built in tremolo? I know we're talking home use only here given the 14w, but that's all I'm looking for right now, just with valve tone. Someone at NAMM read this and go and find out for me! Ta :)



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Posted 21 January 2012 - 12:10 PM

Oh, and did I forget to mention it's only just shy of £230? http://www.andertons...-1x15-combo.asp

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 03:58 PM

More info here:

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:13 PM

I really like the look & sound of the excelsior in that demo. A little flabby wound up, but that could probably be tweaked out. Wonder if it's PP or single ended?
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 02:18 AM

Secondhand Laney VC30 or a newer alternative, a Vox Nightrain, Francis Dunnery (ex - It Bites uses one of those).

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:11 AM

avoid the blues juniors they tend to explode
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:51 AM

View Postumph, on 26 February 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

avoid the blues juniors they tend to explode

They do not tend to explode. They sound good, but I think there are better amps out there. I had a Blues Jr for a few years and it was great. I currently have a Marshall JCM800 combo and a power brake to quieten it down a touch.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:42 AM

Having previously owned a Cornford Harlequin if I had £425 I'd buy a Roadhouse 30 without even trying it !
The Fender blues jr s great.
Our Guitard has a small Vox Night train which is good too.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:11 PM

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They do not tend to explode. They sound good, but I think there are better amps out there. I had a Blues Jr for a few years and it was great. I currently have a Marshall JCM800 combo and a power brake to quieten it down a touch.

i've had to fix alot of them, they bias the output valves far to high and the speaker isn't really up to the job
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:24 PM

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i've had to fix alot of them, they bias the output valves far to high and the speaker isn't really up to the job

That is all true. Not quite the same as blowing up, though!
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 07:50 AM

View PostWil, on 11 January 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

The Peavey Classic 30 looks like a good bet - well priced, sounds decent, good size. Looks pretty cool too!

I've been watching a few amp demos on youtube and it hasn't really helped - my favourite tones so far have been produced by the Vox AC30, and those are a few hundred over my budget at least even used.

They are real nice amps for the money





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