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#1 Les

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:30 PM

Just picked up a Cort M700 guitar, it's really nice, I'm dead pleased with it but I want to change the strings.

This thing has locking tuners WTF ? What is this devilry, is it a trick devised by our lesser brethren to make bass players lives miserable ?

I'm kind of assuming I put the string through the post, pull it tight, clamp the wheel at the back of the tuner tight then tune up but I thought I'd better ask the font of all knowledge first.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:58 PM

Yup, just like you described it. Be careful, because some lockers can have a pin that falls out and gets lost. Also some of them will trim the string flush as they are locked, so make sure you put it in from the correct side (IF they are that type).
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:45 AM

Thanks for that. had to read the second bit about cutting them flush twice, that would be hilarious :D Thankfully these aren't that type.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:51 PM

Looking tuners are great because they reduce the amount of string wrapped around the machine head posts to a minimum and therefore massively improve tuning stability.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:55 PM

Yes, I believe that's the case. This has a floating trem on it as well so I'm sure they'll help.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

Do locking tuners exist for bass? I've never actually seen them... And if they do, would they still hold the instrument in tune?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

I have a Patrick Eggle Milan bass which has locking Sperzal tuners, they work fine

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:05 PM

The little pin clamp things tend to get stuck too. Locking tuners on guitars I find are a pain in the ass. Always snap the strings if you need to take em off for any reason.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:52 PM

View Postchrismuzz, on 10 February 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

Do locking tuners exist for bass? I've never actually seen them... And if they do, would they still hold the instrument in tune?

I've got a Hartke XL4 Bass with locking tuners.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:15 PM

So locking tuners lock the string? I always presumed you tuned up and then it locked the tuner post so it didn't move at all....

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

View PostLukeFRC, on 10 February 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

So locking tuners lock the string? I always presumed you tuned up and then it locked the tuner post so it didn't move at all....

I thought that too. Maybe they'll work better than I imagined!

A locking drop D tuner would be very interesting indeed...

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:41 AM

They just make string changes quicker and stop any slipping which I have never found to a problem anyroad.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

That's correct.

The string wrap thing BRX refers to can be a problem if you like to dive bomb a lot, but it can also reduce string breakage. I've found that wrapping a couple of turns even with locking tuners reduces breakage because there is less stress at the right angle point where the string enters the tuner post. Not all strings suffer breakage, but DRs (my preference) do so very badly IF you loosen the string off & then re-tension it.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:42 PM

Sperzel make locking bass tuners, bloody marvelous things - takes all the hassle out of string changes, no more guessing how much slack on the string is required to get the right number of turns on the peg, and does away will all the tedious winding. Probably have to order them direct from the states though from somewhere like here http://www.guitarpar...nerssperzel.htm

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:31 PM

Got Sperzel locking tuners on 2 basses and 1 guitar. They are very nice quality and light weight too.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

I have had Sperzels, and currently have the Fender branded Schallers on my Deluxe Strat. They are brilliant. Never used them on a bass though.





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