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#31 DolganoFF

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:17 AM

I liked them all !

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:19 PM

76/77 era jazz is excellent, so is the musicman. pedulla disappointed me. musicman should have (imho) recorded with very different settings on the treble control between the two finger recordings, or maybe that's what you did. love all of the stingray recordings though and the mid/late 70s jazzes.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:30 PM

I've one question: was the 72 JB strung with flats?

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:41 PM

View PostDolganoFF, on 09 August 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

I've one question: was the 72 JB strung with flats?

No, just old strings!
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:00 AM

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 11:21 AM

Slight deviation from the topic, but which bass do you find easier to play? Which has the lowest action or fastest neck? Are the vintage fenders very different in feel or quite similar?

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Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:49 PM

View PostOliverBlackman, on 10 August 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

Slight deviation from the topic, but which bass do you find easier to play? Which has the lowest action or fastest neck? Are the vintage fenders very different in feel or quite similar?

The easiest to play is the Fodera, but is so easy that reminds me more to a Ibanez than a Fender. The Sadowsky feels better IMO, it has a vintage response when you slap. For me thats the best, vintage feel with low action = Perfect.
I can feel clearly a difference between 60's Fenders and 70's Fender, I think its because of the fret type, more than the wood type.
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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:32 AM

Thank you for that. Nice wee resource there. It's good to hear those Jazz Bass comparisons. That's very useful for anyone with a Jazz on their shopping list (such as moi).

It would be interesting to hear some Warwicks in there.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:17 AM

View PostFionn, on 14 August 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

Thank you for that. Nice wee resource there. It's good to hear those Jazz Bass comparisons. That's very useful for anyone with a Jazz on their shopping list (such as moi).

It would be interesting to hear some Warwicks in there.

I will add more basses very soon!
Hopefuly some warwick too...
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Posted 20 August 2013 - 01:47 PM

View PostFionn, on 14 August 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

That's very useful for anyone with a Jazz on their shopping list (such as moi).
Not so much since people seems to believe sx = jb 70, 66, etc... in real life, you can even hear differences beetween two japaneses jb.


It's interesting, thanks to miki, but don't judge or buy an instrument only with soundclips (played by another guy, with his set up, strings, etc).

Edited by nobo, 20 August 2013 - 01:51 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 04:00 PM

View Postnobo, on 20 August 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

don't judge or buy an instrument only with soundclips (played by another guy, with his set up, strings, etc).

Thank you for your concern Nobo, I wont ;) ... and certainly not with a Fender

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 04:17 PM

thanks a lot, great comparison. liked the pensa and the 77jb best.
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Posted 25 August 2013 - 04:11 PM

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:30 AM

For me, there were clear differences in tone, however, none sounded particularly 'better' than the other. The Jazzes especially, all sounded like good quality basses.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:30 AM

For me, there were clear differences in tone, however, none sounded particularly 'better' than the other. The Jazzes especially, all sounded like good quality basses.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 07:40 PM

Brilliant thread. Thanks man!
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Posted 03 September 2013 - 02:48 PM

This comparision is good, but to be fair, without the same setup and strings is not much precise.


I'm the owner of two basses of these comparision (the Fodera and the 65' jazz bass), and are the only two basses with 40-100 strings, very old (one year) and with a extreme low action (E string 2mm and G string at 1,2mm at 20th fret).

All the other basses had higher action (some near 1cm at 20th fret), and a bass sounds bigger with more action.

Having said that, the diferences in the recording are subtile, with every bass you can go to a studio and sound good, in my opinion. What is very different, is the sensation, the responsiveness, the force necessary to generate sound, etc. In this aspect, the 62' was awesome, the 65 is very good, the Fodera and the 70s fenders too, and others not too much. The SX was hard to play for my taste, but is a very decent bass.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:52 PM

The bridge pups on the Yamaha & Pedulla were terrific,

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:27 PM

Very very interesting comparison.

Thank you very much for taking the time to record this and moreover sharing it with us!

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 02:50 PM

Really nice work! I've done similar comparisons but not as extensive. The immediate response is -- there isn't as big of a difference as one might think between any of them -- which proposes the argument "Is a $3000 Sadowsky really that much better than a $300 Squier?"

I felt the 62 J had a wee bit more character than the others. The MM is obviously hotter and it's own thing. Not surprising-- Fodera's sound thin. No offense to Fodera owners (of which I was one) they play great but don't sound like anything special. To me. And they look exotic when new but since they don't finish them, they wear quickly -- and not in a nitro way, they just look like worn wood. NOT what I want from a $7000 instrument.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:20 PM

Tell you what would be interesting, doing the whole thing again blind and seeing what bass you thought was which!! I have to agree, I actually really like the sound of the Yamaha; I really like the feel of them too hence depsite having a vintage(ish) Precision and a Bongo my gigging bass is a Yamaha 605 with ultra jazzes and a bartolini preamp!
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:35 PM

I wish yamaha BBs didn't LOOK like yamaha BBs. Personally I feel they are one of the most unattractive, utilitarian, style-agnostic things in the world. There has to be SOME degree of physical attraction or it's hard to become exciting by a woma... I mean by a bass.

However the tone of the BB is outstanding. Like a dream fender-built PJ with properly matched pickups that each stand on their own as great tones but work beautifully together... very unusual in a PJ.

I find it interesting that the most amazing feeling basses built to modern standards are often considered somewhat anemic sounding compared to a great vintage jazz or precision bass. I adore the feel of my carvin bass (for example), and it's tone is amazing.... but definitely nothing like a great jazz bass despite having a typical jazz bass pickup configuration. my musicman basses, on the other hand, feel amazing (which is annoying to me, the carvin is way better ergonomically than the musicmans), and sound incredible. But I love a great jazz bass tone too.... so I'm trying to decide how to proceed with my carvin.... put in vintage style jazz pickups and give the preamp a passive switch option? hmmm.... what to do, what to do.

I've learned that I actually dislike fodera tone quite a bit.... which is disappointing to me. I'm sure though that they can be made to sound like a great vintage jazz bass with the mods or custom configuration done to them... it's a choice to sound like that, not a limitation.

Anyhow - great great work here, love it all.

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 04:25 PM

View PostPrime_BASS, on 06 August 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:




For me the it's between the SX and the 62 jazz.

Ditto. Although for me the Stingray has easily the best slap sound; I hate the Jazz slap sound which to me just sounds brittle and clacky. One thing though; if you forced me to use a Jazz (at gunpoint!) I'd always play it with both pickups on so that was something lost in the test for me. I thought the Fodera, Sadowsky and 70s Js sounded exactly how I don't want a bass to sound. :lol:

To be honest though the main thing this test showed me is that if I have to use a Fender it'd always be a Precision! I really don't like what Jazz basses sound like at all, except when JPJ, Gary Thain, Lenny Kravitz (or his various bassists) use them.

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 04:30 PM

I'll also add that having played pretty much every type of bass in this thread at some point I'd choose the Pedulla every time.

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 04:36 PM

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:12 PM

Interesting thread - great work.
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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:10 AM

Thanks for this Miki ,I found it really useful, it seems to me the high end basses dont stand out soundwise ,and the Jb road worn,and yamaha done it for me .Lovely job cheers.

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:59 PM

Wow! Thanks for a truly informative post!

The next step would be to see how the same set of strings sounds on each bass... But that is another ordeal entirely!

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:02 PM

The Pensa by a long shot! Any more details on it at all, please?

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 02:16 PM

The 1962 was the nicest imo followed by the 72.





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