thebassman Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Anyone got there hands on one of these yet? Any pics, comments etc would be much appreciated. Cheers Thebassman Quote
pantherairsoft Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 As these were only recently announced, and knowing that the demand means that Barefaced have a bit of a lead time I would be very surprised is anyone in the world has one yet... Very interested to compare it to my Big Twin T as soon as some are out and about though! Quote
ern500evo Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 I think there's a few of us on here anxiously awaiting the "it's on it's way to you " email!!! Quote
thebassman Posted October 4, 2013 Author Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) looks like i might have to wait a bit then. Just noticed people sporting some of the other new gen 3 cabs. I probably don't need one of these cabs, but I seriously want one. cheers thebassman Edited October 4, 2013 by thebassman Quote
51m0n Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Played with one for a couple of hours at the SE Bass Bash - they are monstrously loud, my measely 500w MB sa450 head into one literally emptied the hall with the other 30 or 40 bass rigs, because no one could hear anything whilst we played with it. Once again apologies to everyone who put up with my getting very excited with filter sweeps into brown note territory at extreme war volume. Apparently you can jam 1600 watts into one all day and it will just turn your internal organs to jelly... It sounded fantastic, effortlessly loud, but more than that a great tone. Killer cab... Edited October 4, 2013 by 51m0n Quote
Salt on your Bass? Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 I'm waiting too at the mo, hopefully not too much longer If you have a look at the thread highlighting the G3 release (I forget the title) I think on P3 theres some images of the Big Twin 2 prototype. Quote
thebassman Posted October 4, 2013 Author Posted October 4, 2013 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1380894323' post='2232063'] Played with one for a couple of hours at the SE Bass Bash - they are monstrously loud, my measely 500w MB sa450 head into one literally emptied the hall with the other 30 or 40 bass rigs, because no one could hear anything whilst we played with it. Once again apologies to everyone who put up with my getting very excited with filter sweeps into brown note territory at extreme war volume. Apparently you can jam 1600 watts into one all day and it will just turn your internal organs to jelly... It sounded fantastic, effortlessly loud, but more than that a great tone. Killer cab... [/quote] Sounds great, I will be shattering windows with my shuttlemax 9.2 then. Cheers Thebassman Quote
Ghost_Bass Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Won't this be more comparable to a 2-Way Super12T instead of the 3-Way G2 Big Twin T? Quote
Salt on your Bass? Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Apparently not - its a bigger box and the waveguide compression is more than a tweeter - it covers the mid driver and tweeter territory of the Big Twin. Quote
Ghost_Bass Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 [quote name='Salt on your Bass?' timestamp='1380898838' post='2232159'] Apparently not - its a bigger box and the waveguide compression is more than a tweeter - it covers the mid driver and tweeter territory of the Big Twin. [/quote] Quote
51m0n Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Its a lot bigger than an S12t.... It does a lot more in the way of low end extension than an s12t too! Quote
k50 Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Going to sound great with my blacksmith. Just waiting to see photos before I order. Quote
Salt on your Bass? Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 I've been musing over whether to change amps once mine arrives - see how my ashdown pans out first but thought about the blacksmith, as well as otb1000 and the shuttle 9.2. hoping the waits nearly over! Quote
k50 Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Had a shuttle max 9.2 . Found the blacksmith was far superior in powering the big babies . Quote
Salt on your Bass? Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 That's interesting, I thought those two were pretty similarly rated? I like my amps quite straight forward as I'm a bit of a dunce and impatient. I'm going to pop over and see bass direct when time, money (and Mrs!) allows! Quote
Wolverinebass Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1380894323' post='2232063'] Played with one for a couple of hours at the SE Bass Bash - they are monstrously loud, my measely 500w MB sa450 head into one literally emptied the hall with the other 30 or 40 bass rigs, because no one could hear anything whilst we played with it. Once again apologies to everyone who put up with my getting very excited with filter sweeps into brown note territory at extreme war volume. Apparently you can jam 1600 watts into one all day and it will just turn your internal organs to jelly... It sounded fantastic, effortlessly loud, but more than that a great tone. Killer cab... [/quote] I happened to play through 51M0n's rig into the Big Twin 2. I think 2 words can be used to describe it - limitless brutality. I've never played anything like it. I'd never seen anything have speakers which move so far and yet still work afterwards. Never had I played a bass rig which had such low frequency extension. Might put some off, but we had the Markbass at 10 for all of a minute and it just ate the power and continued to just get louder and louder as we turned up. I'm sure that people were being turned into some sort of strange fleshy liquid in far off countries when we played it. I did favour the treble end as hey, that's what most important to me and I went for the "full treble grind." Just ate it. That new waveguide horn is brilliant. Biting, but smooth and not shrill. Si used some evil octave, filter and fuzz fx. It just took it without even breaking a sweat. At the volume it was being played at and the notes being produced with the octave, I didn't think it was possible. The whole off axis thing was ridiculous. I played the same figure as I walked in a wide arc of almost 180 degrees in front of it. The sound stayed virtually constant. That's another one I've never experienced. Furthermore, I used to honestly scoff when people say "it's a one hand lift." I always thought that the people who said that played rugby for New Zealand and were made of solid muscle. I picked the thing up with one hand and I'm only 5 foot 9 and weigh in (dripping wet) at a portly 9 stone 4. It really was like it was made of.... well, nothing. They're not cheap, but nothing good ever is. It's not for everyone I don't think as the bass extension was just soooo monstrous, but I thought it was the best cab I've ever played. Directly before that I'd played 51m0n's Bergantino 4x10. That was the best 410 I'd ever played. Brilliant. Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1380894323' post='2232063'] Played with one for a couple of hours at the SE Bass Bash - they are monstrously loud, my measely 500w MB sa450 head into one literally emptied the hall with the other 30 or 40 bass rigs, because no one could hear anything whilst we played with it. Once again apologies to everyone who put up with my getting very excited with filter sweeps into brown note territory at extreme war volume. Apparently you can jam 1600 watts into one all day and it will just turn your internal organs to jelly... It sounded fantastic, effortlessly loud, but more than that a great tone. Killer cab... [/quote] You must have one on order then ?! Quote
pantherairsoft Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 [quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1380922622' post='2232583'] ... I'd never seen anything have speakers which move so far and yet still work afterwards.... [/quote] I find this very interesting. My Big Twin T gets some serious welly due to the synth sub bass stuff I throw at it. I spent a long time running a 1400w amp into mine and playing large clubs at crazy volume and I still have not seen a driver move. It's beyond belief - The speakers literally move 1-2mm at the most, it's like the cabs not actually plugged in. If the speakers in the new one are very active I'm assuming a very different technology has been employed to produce the volume compared to the older cab. Quote
alexclaber Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 You're not looking hard enough! The speakers in the (2nd gen) Big Twin move as much as those in the (3rd gen) Big Twin 2 for a given SPL at a given frequency. However they'll move much less with an amp with inbuilt steep highpass filtering and often also less with an amp with lots of power and good damping (they wobble around much more with a 200W valve amp than with a 1000W s/s amp). Quote
pantherairsoft Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Alex - I'll shoot some video as I must be going mad. I can physically shake a picture off the wall (just now!!!) with my EBS Fafner and get pretty much no noticeable movement - just some light vibration in the drivers. Either way... I want to A/B the new cab! Any of the 1st batch heading to customers anywhere near Nottingham? Quote
Prime_BASS Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I think I got the first S. Compact through the post on Tues? So I doubt that anyone has a Big Twin 2 close by as of yet. I just xantbwait to put some welly through my compact when I get home. Quote
51m0n Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1380934150' post='2232680'] You must have one on order then ?! [/quote] If it fit in my car and my house the Berg might well be worried As it is it won't fit in either! Quote
51m0n Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Oops double post ... Edited October 5, 2013 by 51m0n Quote
discreet Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Serious GAS now. I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and start saving in earnest. [url="http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/Big-Twin-2.htm"]http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/Big-Twin-2.htm[/url] Alex makes it very tempting indeed. Quote
ern500evo Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381049281' post='2233647'] Serious GAS now. I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and start saving in earnest. [url="http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/Big-Twin-2.htm"]http://barefacedbass.com/product-range/Big-Twin-2.htm[/url] Alex makes it very tempting indeed. [/quote] I made my mind up I wanted a lightweight cab and that after much browsing of their website a barefaced was the answer. I actually put a deposit on a S15 but after filling in the e-form and a few emails back and forth with Alex he sent me the spec for the Big Twin 2, bit the bullet and went for it. After reading people's views on it at the SE bash I'm so glad I did. Can't wait for it to arrive now. If you're ever in the Bristol area and fancy a blast let me know, I live about 2 mins from our rehearsal space which is always available and volume not an issue!! :-D Quote
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