Stealth Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Looking for nice slightly gritty Rock bass tone are Mesa really that good to cost a wad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgbass Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 The Mesa sell only at MSRP. They are worth the bucks. Another good option to the Mesa, the [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xcjkEMY.gif[/IMG]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeponehandloose Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 i think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Valve or SS ones? Never dealt with the SS stuff, but the valve stuff has a big giant flaw in that you can't adjust the bias without modifying and losing the warranty, and that sucks really badly, and their use of racist stereotyping to try and justify it in the manuals really doesn't help. [quote]Visualize, if you will, a group of sub-atomic Irishmen milling about and in a repellent, negative state of mind. All are scowling and none wants to have anything to do with the other. Now introduce a strong attraction say, a public bar, and you can easily picture an orderly, if rapid movement of the lot in a single direction. This is what happens when a positively charged element called the anode or plate is introduced into the vacuum.[/quote] The fiddlier amps are badly designed from a service perspective also. Harder to go wrong on the simpler stuff since its all on PCB for ease of mass production, price doesn't reflect that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I'd say no, although the 400 series was classic, IMO. But if it works for you, then you'll pay the price... and that is the way it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinebass Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 What about the cabs? Are the powerhouse series worth it? Having never played them, I've been offered a Powerhouse 4x12 for a quite nice deal, but as even at that it's still a massive wodge of cash. Is it worth it? Has anyone ever played one? Are they transparent or heavily coloured cabs? Any info would be good if anyone has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='gsgbass' timestamp='1381588406' post='2241065'] The Mesa sell only at MSRP. They are worth the bucks. Another good option to the Mesa, the [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xcjkEMY.gif[/IMG]. [/quote] Not in the UK, you can definitely buy Mesa at below RRP if you know where to look. In fact I think it's against EU regulations to price fix. Some of the new Mesa cabs are a fair bit cheaper than the older ones as well. They don't have the flash adjustable crossovers and there are some other design differences but it really helps in prices Happy to advise on pricing stuff if anyone wants to PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='gsgbass' timestamp='1381588406' post='2241065'] The Mesa sell only at MSRP. They are worth the bucks. Another good option to the Mesa, the . [/quote] I have paid below MSRP for a new Mesa item from a UK dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='Stealth' timestamp='1381585974' post='2241010'] Looking for nice slightly gritty Rock bass tone are Mesa really that good to cost a wad ? [/quote] If you like it then it is that good. Looking used is always good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I have a guy who does all our repairs and he hates them.... some of that may be because he thinks they may weight a ton... but once inside them, not too many kind words eithert but I suspect that is because he does think they are easy to work on... I recall a 400 and 1516 rig that forgave a multitude of sins...and it was a great sound at that time. but I didn't have the load-in. Today..?? I suspect there are better alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkin Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1381676760' post='2242138'] Looking used is always good though. [/quote] That's me sorted then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='barkin' timestamp='1381679433' post='2242197'] That's me sorted then... [/quote] Ha ha, me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 The old all valve 400 series are super clean. I don't know much about the newer walkabouts. For grit or grind, Ampeg SVT would be the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) [size=4][quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1381676760' post='2242138']Looking used is always good though.[/quote][quote name='barkin' timestamp='1381679433' post='2242197']That's me sorted then... [/quote][quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1381680399' post='2242211']Ha ha, me too.[/quote][/size] [size=4]I have a son about your age. It used to be all trees round here. Is that my toast?[/size] Edited October 13, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381680947' post='2242218'] [size=4]I have a son about your age. It used to be all trees round here. Is that my toast?[/size] [/quote] If you've got a son about my age then you are a very old f****r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1381681121' post='2242221'] If you've got a son about my age then you are a very old f****r [/quote] [size=4] Not [i]that [/i]old. I was just practising for the old people's home. Should I be lucky enough to be put into one.[/size] Edited October 13, 2013 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381681349' post='2242226'] [size=4] Not [i]that [/i]old. I was just practising for the old people's home. Should I be lucky enough to be put into one.[/size] [/quote] ... and your profile says age unknown. Spooky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1381681540' post='2242231'] ... and your profile says age unknown. Spooky! [/quote] Birthday unknown, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 [quote name='Stealth' timestamp='1381585974' post='2241010'] Looking for nice slightly gritty Rock bass tone are Mesa really that good to cost a wad ? [/quote] I've got the hybrid mpulse amp. It's brilliant for the tone you are looking for, way better than any Ampeg I have owned! Not cheap these days thru... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman Steve Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The 400's are terrific amps (as has been said) and I have a Walkabout that is very much (again, as someone else said) a modern day B15 Portaflex. You would expect that I would be a big fan and think they are easily worth the hassle of the weight and the price. I would caution that you need to live with it and take the time and effort to get to know it before you get the most out of it. It probably took me 6 months to really understand how everything works and I recall being a bit disappointed until I figured it out, but from then on - tone heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I've had an MPulse and a Walkabout, both very nice, good rock tones, too. Neither of them beat the Streamliner for me (IMHO, YMMV, etc, etc) but they get plenty of love around here, and rightly so. They'd be my second choice amp (and first choice'big amp'), tho I wouldn't pay new prices for either; they can occasionally be had around the £400-500 mark secondhand, and you'll always be able to shift one on if it isn't to your taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzyvee Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I have a mesa walkabout and 3 mesa powerhouse cabs 2x10, 4x10 and 1x15 that in use in various combinations as needed. Mostly its the walkabout and the 4x10. I play reggae and jazz-funk so and prefer clean only sound so and I can't fault the mesa gear it sounds great for me. It stays clean for as loud as I need the cabs to be. It is the only bass rig I've ever had so I could be seen to have a bias. I bought the amp, 2x10 and 1x15 together although had to wait for about 3 months for the 1x15 to arrive as apparently there were sold out when I ordered mine. I got a good discount below MRRP price and was happy with that. I got an absolute steal on the 4x10 via ebay for just under £400 and the seller bought it new 6 weeks earlier but preferred the Diesel cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 They're the only one of the "main" brands I'd buy from. Good stuff all round and the Walkabout is a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Local band (The Rising) played a gig in Benfleet on Saturday night...... bassist was using a mesa boogie head and cab. The cab actually caught fire and had to be dragged out of the pub!! I'm hoping to see some pics today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperbob 2002 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I have a Mesa Bass Buster - 1 x 15 combo- valve 200 watts. No kidding as loud as my old Hartke LH1000- but sounds lovely. Best amp I have had- Ive had loads. Bought it for £800 from this very forum. I don't use it at gigs though as it weighs as much as a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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