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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:26 PM

I'm sure lots of you know this 2 piece bass/drums band:

http://royalbloodband.com/

Any idea what bass he's playing?

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:42 PM

This pic might help. Les Paul?
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 11:26 AM

I can drop the drummer a message if you'd like? He's a good friend of mine.

From when I saw them play the other week, he was playing a Gretsch bass. A Jet I believe. Runs it through a bass and guitar amp so that they can get the sound with just two of them.
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Posted 28 November 2013 - 03:05 PM

Hey, That's really cool!

Well, you can let them know I think their band is really excellent! :)

Not ever come across a Gretch bass before. What are they like??

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:06 AM

I'll pass it on. Pretty sure they just signed to a major label today.

I haven't really seen Gretch basses either but sounds pretty good from what I heard. Will try and get some more info.
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 02:01 AM

I expect a few people round here (including me) would be interested in his rig is any info is around?
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:11 AM

Love the two tracks I've listened to on their YouTube channel, great band :)

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:14 AM

I think 6 Music just announced the album is released end of the month, they played a new track today, sounded awesome.
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:45 AM

I'm excited about this band. Nice and raw!
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Posted 26 February 2014 - 08:50 AM

Saw them last night. He had 2 Gretsch basses and a Fender Starcaster. Forget the basses though... that pedal setup and the sound he gets!! F**k me!

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 08:59 AM

Two Pogs and two Harmonists........serious pitch-shifting going on! ;)
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Posted 15 March 2014 - 09:05 PM

Hi, I'm new so I hope I'm not too late to reply to this topic.

As newbie bass player I'd like to know how he manages to get the sounds he needs in order to fulfill both the bass and guitar parts? I've seen it done the other way - guitar to sound like bass - is it the same sort of method? I love the tones in these songs!

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 09:42 PM

He bi-amps through a bass rig and a guitar rig.

I assume he splits the signal at a certain frequency so that the lower frequencies are processed by the bass rig and the higher ones by the guitar rig and then blends it back together to create his incredible tone!

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 12:12 PM

View PostTruckstop, on 15 March 2014 - 09:42 PM, said:

He bi-amps through a bass rig and a guitar rig.

I assume he splits the signal at a certain frequency so that the lower frequencies are processed by the bass rig and the higher ones by the guitar rig and then blends it back together to create his incredible tone!

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 08:45 AM

I do a similar thing with a Micro POG and a boss LS-2. One loop has the bass sound, the other loop has the octave-up (from the POG) followed by overdrive and delay. Blend to taste for a monster riff sound.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 08:56 AM

Saw them on Jools Holland after hearing all the good things people had to say about them on here and they are great! They seem to mix reasonably 'classic' but gritty rock riffs with a more contemporary overall sound and only with two instruments!

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 09:06 AM

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:13 AM

View PostClarky72, on 26 February 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

Saw them last night. He had 2 Gretsch basses and a Fender Starcaster. Forget the basses though... that pedal setup and the sound he gets!! F**k me!

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Can anyone work out the pedals on this rig?

I can see so far:
  • 2x Electro Harmonic POGs
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  • Boss TU3
  • Strymon Flint Tremelo & Reverb
Any ideas on the huge green one and the small one in the bottom corner?

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:21 AM

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Can anyone work out the pedals on this rig?

I can see so far:
  • 2x Electro Harmonic POGs
  • 2x Boss PS6s
  • Boss GE7
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  • Strymon Flint Tremelo & Reverb
Any ideas on the huge green one and the small one in the bottom corner?

The small one is a Zvex Mastotron, a variation on the mammoth fuzz they do. Excellent pedal the gate can make it seriously punchy and stuttery for a fuzz.

The LS-2 looks to be there to split the chain up and each has a pig and harmonist on, I don't know if any is used for octave down, since the tunings I've hard are drop C.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 11:41 AM

So the LS-2 can keep both lines playing at once right? I know he cuts out the Bassy tones on some songs when he has a high guitar parts like in Little Monster.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 11:46 AM

I stumbled across these guys on Jools Holland last night.. What a sound! Best two piece band i've ever heard, blows Blood Red Shoes and The Black Keys out of the water IMO.
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:34 PM

View PostNOTJORDANWALKER, on 24 April 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

So the LS-2 can keep both lines playing at once right? I know he cuts out the Bassy tones on some songs when he has a high guitar parts like in Little Monster.

The big green lump is a Palmer Triage, which is an amp switching pedal. I heard that he uses 3 different amps on stage, so presumably routes various signals to different amps using it.
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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:54 PM

the eq pedal looks well od cuts everything? including volume? wandering if thats an easy way to kill the sound?

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 09:34 PM

Hi, I'm new to this site but after seeing this i had to join. After watching A LOT of live shows on youtube and studying this picture i think Iv'e estimated how he gets his tone. The chain starts with the bass his :
*Gretsch Electromatic Jnr Jet Bass II in Black
*Gretsch Electromatic Jnr Jet Bass II in Black - Tobacco Sunburst
these seem to be his main bass guitars one kept in drop D (for sure) and one a full step down (i think), he also uses a
*Fender Starcaster Bass 4-String Semi Acoustic Bass Guitar Black
This is kept in Drop C with the other strings down a full step (probably because the Gretschs are small scale basses and cant cope with this low tuning)

Now to the pedalboard. The chain starts with his Boss tuner> then the PS-6 Harmonist (from the picture looks like its in the s;bend mode which will be how he gets those quick high +1octave sounds for solos ect..)> this then goes into the "palmer triage" which is where the signal splits into three
*1st output- goes to the Boss LS-2 this is the pedal he hits to cut the bass sound probably on A~bypass mode this then goes straight to the bass amp (as far as i know you cant here any gain on the "real" bass sound) the bass amp is an Ampeg 4x12"
*2nd output goes to a POG 2 which will be set for the "fake" guitar sound> this then goes to a Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer, this is used to cut the low ends off and get a mid range sound its not kept on through the show, you can hear it on the breakdown on "Little Monster"- very good for build ups> this then goes into another Boss Harmonist which might be for a 5th or something but I'm guaranteed its to bend to an octave below ( so the "fake" guitar sounds like it is turning into a bass again MADNESS)> this then ends on the Strymon Flint reverb/tremolo this is just used for a bit of texture and feedback>this set up then finally goes to a guitar amp think its a vintage Fender amp.
*3rd output. Finally the last output goes to another POG 2 which will have similar settings to the other one> then goes to a Z.VEX Vextron Mastotron Fuzz probably on the whole gig , his amps probably have high gain settings too for more crunch.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:25 PM

Really enjoying Royal Blood, they remind me of one of my favourite bands ever: Death From Above 1979 which were also Bass and Drums only (sometimes sinth with synth parts).

Interesting setup to get the sound, similar concept to what I use when I play with my drummer as it is dificult to fill the sound with just a bass.

The Palmer Triage is a great tool for splitting your signal to several amps, highly recomended.

I wish them good luck with their new record deal and I see that they have some cool shows coming up, I will try to see them live.
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:57 AM

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I stumbled across these guys on Jools Holland last night.. What a sound! Best two piece band i've ever heard, blows Blood Red Shoes and The Black Keys out of the water IMO.
Nah man, the Black Keys are the masters of the two piece act! :rolleyes:

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 10:02 AM

I'm trying to figure out the need for the POGs. Running a bass through a pedal that added an octave down is going to produce a really low, bass. Can you shift the pog up an octave or is it just down like the Boss OC-3?

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 11:50 AM

Guess it depends where you are playing the basslines, if he's doing a lot of work up around the 12th fret or higher (easier to play chordal stuff up there?) then an added lower octave would fill out the bottom end frequencies so it would sound fuller. By coincidence the black keys were on jools recently too - doesn't look like a 2 piece band for live work.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 10:51 AM

View PostKevB, on 12 May 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

By coincidence the black keys were on jools recently too - doesn't look like a 2 piece band for live work.
Oh, no. Royal Blood are 100% two piece. No guys in the background. That's why their pedal board is such a hot topic.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 12:41 PM

View PostNOTJORDANWALKER, on 13 May 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

Oh, no. Royal Blood are 100% two piece. No guys in the background. That's why their pedal board is such a hot topic.
Think KevB was referring to Black Keys using additional musicians live BUT on hearing Royal Blood first time WOW just WOW !
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