Jump to content


Humbucker sized P-90 pickups


40 replies to this topic

#1 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 27 November 2013 - 10:48 PM

Hello All,

I am hankering after a P-90 loaded guitar again :unsure:

There's an old LP style guitar kicking around and thought about putting some HB sized P-90s in it....
But, Anyone tried something like the Bareknuckle Pickup's Mississippi Queen?

I've heard they aren't quite the same as the real thing sound wise...

Cheers,
Jon
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#2 Mr Arkadin

    Fully fledged member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 123 posts

Posted 14 December 2013 - 12:30 AM

A bit late, and frankly of no use to you tone-wise, but I have a Nantucket in my Jag baritone. I have no other P90s so have no idea how authentic it is, but it is a great pick-up. It's not listed on their site as available humbucker-size but if you ask them they'll do it. I'd check out the Bare Knuckle forum for opinions on authenticity.


http://www.flickr.co...N02/9555844029/

Edited by Mr Arkadin, 14 December 2013 - 12:31 AM.


#3 OldG

    sinistral

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 409 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northants
  • Interests:sex and drugs and rock and roll...

Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:31 AM




http://www.guitarfet...ckup_p_480.html

I put a set in my frankenstrat.... cheap to buy - lovely tone imho.
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery - none but ourselves can free our minds...

Nesta Robert Marley (6 February 1945 – 11 May 1981)

#4 tedmanzie

    Fully fledged member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 822 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Kingston, Surrey / SW London
  • Interests:Eating carrots, hiding in bushes

Posted 15 December 2013 - 11:03 AM

I put those GFS Mean 90s in my Orville Les Paul and I thought they were very good, and very cheap (order straight from US). Sorted out my previously muddy sound.
But I've never had real P90s so couldn't vouch for how similar they are.
JV Squier Precision 62ri, SQ Squier Precision
Basschat feedback: http://tinyurl.com/8yevyl6

#5 Biaeothanata-Bassist

    Fully fledged member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 189 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Milton Keynes
  • Interests:Metal music, football, tattoos, piercings, booze and festivals

    Bass player for F.S.I.
    www.facebook.com/FSIBand

Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:11 PM

Seymour Duncan PhatCat SHP90-1 is the bomb. My mate has one loaded in both of his Les Pauls (1 Gibson Les Paul Custom and 1 Epiphone Zakk Wylde) in the neck position. They can go from really sweet cleans all the way through to blazing solo tones and they sound exactly like normal P-90s. I'm eventually going to put one in my Explorer to pair up with the Seymour Duncan SH-4 JB as I love the combined tone of the SH-4 and the SHP90-1 but they're equally as good as a bridge position pick up.

http://www.seymourdu...ph901_phat_cat/

There's 3 videos on there, one guy has got a pair of them in a Les Paul (think it's the top video, should show a red LP?) and demos loads of tonal variation from them. I can't recommend them highly enough.
Basses & guitars:
Fender Steve Harris 2010 precision bass (royal metallic blue) - Steve
Jackson CMG concert bass (black forest) - Dave
Tobias toby pro IV bass (transparent red) - Toby
Parts built fretless bass (quicksilver) - Silvia
ESP LTD Alexi-600 "blacky" guitar (matte & gloss black) - Alexi
Squier stratocaster (gloss black) - Jim

Amps, effects & misc:
Pick ups & bridges: Seymour Duncan, EMG, Dimarzio & Leo Quan
Amps, cabinets & speakers: Ampeg & Eminence
Effects: DBX, EHX, Aphex, MXR/Dunlop & Behringer
Cables & wireless: Planet Waves & Sennheiser
Mics: Shure & Samson
Recording: Macbook pro 13, Logic pro 9, Focusrite saffire pro 24 dsp

GAS:
Fender Steve Harris 2001 precision bass (lake placid blue)
Fender Steve Harris 2015 precision bass (west ham livery)
Jackson David Ellefson "Rust in Peace" concert bass (quicksilver)
Countryman type 95 di box

#6 JapanAxe

    My other bass is a Precision.

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,111 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Swindon

Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:16 PM

View PostNoisyjon, on 27 November 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:

Hello All,

I am hankering after a P-90 loaded guitar again :unsure:

There's an old LP style guitar kicking around and thought about putting some HB sized P-90s in it....
But, Anyone tried something like the Bareknuckle Pickup's Mississippi Queen?

I've heard they aren't quite the same as the real thing sound wise...

Cheers,
Jon

I have Mississippi Queens in a Gibson CS336. They sound lovely, and completely different to the Seymour Duncan P90s in my PRS McCarty.
Bass Guitars | Fender Precision (USA 1973) | Fender Precision '63 AVRI (USA 2015) | Fender Mustang FSR (Japan 2016) | Kala U-bass

Backline | Demeter VTBP-M-800D | Markbass Nano Mark 300 | Barefaced Compact & Midget (vintage silver) | Markbass Micromark 801

Posted Image FEEDBACK

#7 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:44 PM

Thanks for the info Guys.
After a think I am going to convert my SG Jr to have a single P-90 in it, not the LP.

I think the BKP MQ will be the winner but the suitably expensive Lindy Fralin P-92 has also caught my eye for something a bit more obscure :rolleyes:
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#8 rapscallion

    Fully fledged member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 330 posts
  • Location:West Sussex

Posted 08 January 2014 - 08:21 PM

I'm looking at a Tonerider Rebel 90 for my Telemaster build. Will let you know how it sounds, the demos sound good, and cheap too

Jazz > Whammy > Stache > Bastard


Feedback thread -
http://basschat.co.u...__fromsearch__1


#9 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 09 January 2014 - 08:47 AM

View Postrapscallion, on 08 January 2014 - 08:21 PM, said:

I'm looking at a Tonerider Rebel 90 for my Telemaster build. Will let you know how it sounds, the demos sound good, and cheap too

Please do keep us updated Rapscallion.

Thanks,
NJ
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#10 Kiwi

    Big, bouncy and now officially "dangerous".

  • Administrators
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,614 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hunan Province, China.
  • Interests:DIY dentishtry. Competitive throat clearing, road raging at Chinese drivers.

Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:48 PM

Why do players like P90's? I'm curious and uneducated...
Bass: Self built 5-string semi hollow headless, '79 Alembic Series 1 graphite, '78 Musicman Stingray, '86 Pangborn Warlord graphite, '93 Pedulla Pentabuzz, '09 Shuker Headless 6 MIDI (signed by Lee Sklar, Doug Wimbish and Billy Sheehan),'00 Spector NS5CR, '90 Status Series 1 5 string.
Backline: EBS Microbass, FEA Labs Dual Band compressor, Future Impact bass synth, Zoom B3 into two Genz Benz Shuttle 6's and two fEARful F112 cabs, Trace Elliot Hexavalve, two Burman Pro4000HD 140w valve heads

Guitar: Alan Knight 'Hitmaker' tribute, Klein-berger replica with sustainer, Warmoth HSS Strat (signed by Nile Rodgers), Yamaha MSG Deluxe Mk 1, Yamaha MSG Deluxe Mk 2
Backline: Effectrode PC2A compressor, Empress Parametric Eq, Amptweaker Tight Rock, Joyo JF14 American Sound, Zoom G3X, Lexicon MPXG2 + R1 foot controller, Ibanez TSA5 x2 Burman Pro 501 50w combo and Fender Concert II (Rivera era)

Studio: Yamaha CS6R synth module, Axon AX100 pitch to MIDI, Burman GX3 preamp, Lexicon MPXG2 and MIDIman 16ch mixer, Ableton Live + soft synths

#11 ezbass

    Turn it up until your pants flap!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,679 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Surrey
  • Interests:Bass (duh!), Guitar, Rock Climbing, Golf, Snowboarding & Skiing

Posted 09 January 2014 - 11:13 PM

View PostKiwi, on 09 January 2014 - 10:48 PM, said:

Why do players like P90's? I'm curious and uneducated...
The thickness and raunch of humbuckers coupled with the tonal breadth and clarity of normal single coils.
Maruszczyk Elwood L Custom (JJ), Maruszczyk Elwood L Custom Fretless (MM), Rickenbacker 4003S, Rob Allen MB-2, Phil Jones Flightcase, Phil Jones Cub & PB300

My Feedback

#12 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:46 AM

The moment I 'got it' was hearing an old P-90 loaded Gibson LP Junior plugged straight into a Vox AC-30 and just turned up.... Stunning sound for a Rock band!
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#13 BigBassBob

    ボブ

  • Forum Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 843 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Pembrokeshire
  • Interests:Music, teaching, cinema, reading, video games.

Posted 15 January 2014 - 08:03 PM

I'm a big fan of Bare Knuckle Pickups (the guitar pickups at least.) I've heard nothing but good things about the Mississippi Queens although I've not used them. Currently have a set of Rebel Yells which I'm trading in for some lower gain Mules.

#14 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:11 PM

View PostBigBassBob, on 15 January 2014 - 08:03 PM, said:

I'm a big fan of Bare Knuckle Pickups (the guitar pickups at least.) I've heard nothing but good things about the Mississippi Queens although I've not used them. Currently have a set of Rebel Yells which I'm trading in for some lower gain Mules.

Thanks for the info Bob. I have a Les Paul with a set of Stormy Monday humbuckers in it and they are just great sounding units. They are the lowest gain 'buckers BKP do and with a high gain amp that guitar is something else!

Once payday rolls around I will be ordering a Black covered bridge position MQ I think :)
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#15 GarethFlatlands

    Very Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sheffield

Posted 26 January 2014 - 06:03 PM

View PostNoisyjon, on 09 January 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

Please do keep us updated Rapscallion.

Thanks,
NJ

Very late but I stuck one in a homebrew tele. Do you guys want a soundclip or something?

#16 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:30 AM

View PostGarethFlatlands, on 26 January 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

Very late but I stuck one in a homebrew tele. Do you guys want a soundclip or something?

Go on then Gareth, that would be great please.
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#17 GarethFlatlands

    Very Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sheffield

Posted 28 January 2014 - 10:08 PM

I'll knock something up this week and put a dropbox link up.

It will be entirely VST amps for convenience reasons but it should give you an idea of the tone.

Edit: - I did this very quickly.The amp is a free VST called Kuassa amplification, some EQ on the 3 different settings (clean, crunch, lead) but effect free apart from that. The volume and tone controls on the guitar are backed off a little, the guitar is very cheap and I haven't changed the strings in an incredibly long time but hopefully you can get a flavour of how the pickup sounds. Apologies if I've butchered a track you like but it was very much 1 take only.

Link removed as not working.

Edited by GarethFlatlands, 02 February 2014 - 11:19 PM.


#18 OldG

    sinistral

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 409 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northants
  • Interests:sex and drugs and rock and roll...

Posted 29 January 2014 - 08:50 AM

The sound clip doesn't seem to play for me... anyone else?
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery - none but ourselves can free our minds...

Nesta Robert Marley (6 February 1945 – 11 May 1981)

#19 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:09 PM

Same here, the clip won't play?
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#20 OldG

    sinistral

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 409 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northants
  • Interests:sex and drugs and rock and roll...

Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:55 PM

Not a problem my end then, ta :)
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery - none but ourselves can free our minds...

Nesta Robert Marley (6 February 1945 – 11 May 1981)

#21 GarethFlatlands

    Very Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sheffield

Posted 29 January 2014 - 07:04 PM

Doh, sorry. Still getting the hang of Dropbox Any suggestions?

#22 OldG

    sinistral

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 409 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northants
  • Interests:sex and drugs and rock and roll...

Posted 30 January 2014 - 07:07 AM

I can only help you with linkage, rather than an embedded player...

from the top,
right click on the file in your dropbox folder > left click 'share dropbox link'

go to BC forum topic reply box and select 'more reply options' (next to post)

select link (9th icon from left on toolbar) and a box to enter URL will appear

right click and paste in the dropbox link

post and share...

HTH
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery - none but ourselves can free our minds...

Nesta Robert Marley (6 February 1945 – 11 May 1981)

#23 GarethFlatlands

    Very Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sheffield

Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:38 PM

Edit - Never mind, tried something and it didn't work. I'll have a look at it once I've had dinner.

Edited by GarethFlatlands, 30 January 2014 - 06:39 PM.


#24 Ancient Mariner

    How do I delete my account?

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,106 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:North Oxon.

Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:44 PM

A little late, but can I recommend BG pickups Pure 90s. Bryan has a great reputation on Harmony Central among builders, modders and players.
My feedback

Light travels faster than sound: that's why some people appear bright until they speak.

#25 dlloyd

    Should be at work

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,293 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Aberystwyth

Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:28 PM

Way, way late, but I'm intrigued by these:

http://www.seymourdu...t/prails_shpr1/

#26 GarethFlatlands

    Very Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sheffield

Posted 02 February 2014 - 03:44 PM

Right, sorry for the delay. Soundcloud wouldn't let me upload a track, saying I needed to confirm my email when I already did. It's now working.

Hope it works this time.

https://soundcloud.c...rebel-rider-p90

Edit:- sorry for the tuning issues. I think the neck is a little warped.

Edited by GarethFlatlands, 02 February 2014 - 11:19 PM.


#27 OldG

    sinistral

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 409 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Northants
  • Interests:sex and drugs and rock and roll...

Posted 03 February 2014 - 07:30 AM

Cheers Gareth, sounds good... were you using neck, bridge or both on the clip there?
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery - none but ourselves can free our minds...

Nesta Robert Marley (6 February 1945 – 11 May 1981)

#28 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:37 AM

View PostGarethFlatlands, on 02 February 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

Right, sorry for the delay. Soundcloud wouldn't let me upload a track, saying I needed to confirm my email when I already did. It's now working.

Hope it works this time.

https://soundcloud.c...rebel-rider-p90

Edit:- sorry for the tuning issues. I think the neck is a little warped.

Thanks for that Gareth and nice sounds!
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#29 Noisyjon

    Loud & Proud

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,885 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Food 'n' Drink!

Posted 03 February 2014 - 09:06 AM

View PostAncient Mariner, on 31 January 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

A little late, but can I recommend BG pickups Pure 90s. Bryan has a great reputation on Harmony Central among builders, modders and players.

Thanks for the link AM.

I had a look at this site and what I found interesting is where he mentions about using plastic covers.
Now, I know some guitars had/have P-90s with chrome covers but when I thought about it the sound I'm shooting for is that plastic covered vintage P90 sound.

So with that in mind this pickup ticks all the boxes for me and at a reasonable price from a UK supplier:
http://www.wdmusic.c...stic-1163-p.asp
Fender CS, Lakand USA & MM PDN Stingray Basses, MarkBass & Mesa/Boogie Amps and a Barefaced cab.

The freedom of speech is wonderful, Right up there with freedom not to listen!

#30 GarethFlatlands

    Very Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,330 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sheffield

Posted 03 February 2014 - 05:41 PM

View PostOldG, on 03 February 2014 - 07:30 AM, said:

Cheers Gareth, sounds good... were you using neck, bridge or both on the clip there?

Just the bridge P90, the neck is an unknown make regular tele style pickup and I'm having some phasing issues with both pickups at once so I just ignored it for the clip.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users