Bilbo Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I have just been asked to record a session for a composer up a mountain in Wales. The other instrument is a kora, played by a guy in Senegal. I will record my part in my music studio (shed) in Felixstowe. Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Well done Rob! This is exactly how I operate... and it's a lot of fun That said, I'd always swap it for recording in the same room as other people, given the choice. But when that's not possible it's a very workable alternative. Plus, it's perhaps a little less 'pressured', which can have its advantages. The world certainly is an increasingly small place. PS: if you get opportunity/permission, then post up the finished track here. I'm currently dabbling in something with Nigel (xilddx) that involves a nice kora part. It's a fantastic instrument. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockfordStone Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I want to do something like this, but wouldn't know where to get the contacts haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 [quote name='RockfordStone' timestamp='1401897741' post='2468041']I want to do something like this, but wouldn't know where to get the contacts haha[/quote] SoundCloud has always worked for me. I search within a relevant genre of music (normally for vocalists, so I add that as a search term) and then spend some time listening to what turns up. There are always a few diamonds in the rough When I find something I like, I send the person a quick message setting out what I'm looking for, with a link to my own SC page for reference. I've never yet had anyone say no! Although I've had plenty of non-replies. I think SoundCloud is a good platform for finding collaborators as it's pretty much focussed solely on the music itself, rather than fussing around with artist biographies and photo galleries, etc, so you can get straight to the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Not a new thing of course, but the internet certainly makes it far more accessible to far more people and is a lot more convenient than flying master tapes around the world! Though maybe not as much fun as recording in a Caribbean island studio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1401903141' post='2468144']...Though maybe not as much fun as recording in a Caribbean island studio?[/quote] Yeah, I miss that, too..! ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 [quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1401900106' post='2468078'] SoundCloud has always worked for me. I search within a relevant genre of music (normally for vocalists, so I add that as a search term) and then spend some time listening to what turns up. There are always a few diamonds in the rough When I find something I like, I send the person a quick message setting out what I'm looking for, with a link to my own SC page for reference. I've never yet had anyone say no! Although I've had plenty of non-replies. I think SoundCloud is a good platform for finding collaborators as it's pretty much focussed solely on the music itself, rather than fussing around with artist biographies and photo galleries, etc, so you can get straight to the point. [/quote] Soundcloud worked for me too last December. I was asked just to do some soundscape stuff for a band in Bristol, they didn't know I played bass too, I was asked to provide bass on 2 tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyd Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Excuse my ignorance, but I have a couple of questions about how this works - I'm assuming that you receive the other part(s) as an audio file, then record your own part and send it back, then they listen to it, maybe suggest changes etc, and then incorporate it into the final mix. What about a click track to maintain tempo, or is that a no-no? Sorry for the questions, but I'm genuinely interested in how this process works (I'd like to do something similar). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Check out http://www.wikiloops.com/ if you want to get started doing this style of recording for fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 [quote name='tinyd' timestamp='1402397814' post='2472964'] Excuse my ignorance, but I have a couple of questions about how this works - I'm assuming that you receive the other part(s) as an audio file, then record your own part and send it back, then they listen to it, maybe suggest changes etc, and then incorporate it into the final mix. What about a click track to maintain tempo, or is that a no-no? Sorry for the questions, but I'm genuinely interested in how this process works (I'd like to do something similar). Thanks! [/quote] Yep, that's about the sum of it! Either a click track, or just an agreed bpm, or if working with a live drummer, they occasionally lay down their part first for everyone else to play to. The different parts then get brought together by one member of the team into a full mix (this is usually my job), which everyone then comments on until a final copy is agreed. It's a lot more straightforward than it might seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 That's it. I got a recording of the track the producer was working on and he told me it was 90 bpm. I copied the audio file into cubase and recorded my bit (defaulted to 0.00 on the clock so he can line it up when I send it back to him). The learning point for me was that he wanted it recorded at a sample rate of 24bit/48.000khz but I could only do it 24 bit/44.100 khz (Cubase defaults to 33.1 for some reason) so he sent me a copy at 44.100 so I could work with it (if you record at the wrong sample rate, the thing is not in tune). He also asked me to record the thing as dry as humanly possible and he would add the EQ and effects at this end. The recording I sent him was horrible because it was what I really soound like warts and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) In Some DAWs, if you need to use different sample rates (48 kHz), It needs to be changed at the Audio interface level first, then it can Be set to 48 kHz under the DAW preferences, otherwise the DAW will keep defaulting to 44.1 kHz (or whatever it was set to originally). Edited June 10, 2014 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Mixing 44.1 and 48 won't result in things sounding out of tune, but will result in slight degradation due to the software having to resample one to match the other. 44.1 is the standard for CDs, and 48 for movies on DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 This is my preferred way of working these days. Just been recording some bass parts for a guy in Glasgow, totally stress-free & you don't even have to leave the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyd Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I like the idea of recording drums first, or at least using a click track - I suppose it depends on how sparse the music is - if there are longish pauses etc then I'd imagine a click track would help things to come back in properly, but if the groove is solid all the way through then I'm guessing that this wouldn't be an issue. Anyway, thanks for sharing - I'm going to give it a go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 I just got paid for my session. The producer (an old, old friend I was in Art college with in 1982/3) is thrilled with the performance ('very, very happy'). The payment worked out pretty cool on an hourly rate basis so everyone is happy. He has told me I am now his first call Jazz bass player (I don't think it will need it to be NHOP standard!! ). Buzzing! Interestingly, my friend records mainly for film so the 48.000 sample rate for DVD would mnake sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1402499499' post='2474169'] I just got paid for my session. The producer (an old, old friend I was in Art college with in 1982/3) is thrilled with the performance ('very, very happy'). The payment worked out pretty cool on an hourly rate basis so everyone is happy. He has told me I am now his first call Jazz bass player (I don't think it will need it to be NHOP standard!! ). Buzzing! Interestingly, my friend records mainly for film so the 48.000 sample rate for DVD would mnake sense. [/quote] "Jazz" music, records "mainly for film"? Admit it, It was a porn film soundtrack, wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1402499722' post='2474171'] "Jazz" music, records "mainly for film"? Admit it, It was a porn film soundtrack, wasn't it? [/quote] I think it's more likely to be Lady and the Tramp or The Aristocats, Rhys!! He does a lot a animal history programmes for National Georgraphic Channel and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1402500569' post='2474181'] I think it's more likely to be Lady and the Tramp or The Aristocats, Rhys!! He does a lot a animal history programmes for National Georgraphic Channel and the like. [/quote] Yes, Bilbo. Quite. Of course. So there you were, fretting away about being up to scratch, to be told he's 'very, very happy'..? Well done, that man; next time have even more self-confidence. No not complacency, that's something else. Just be reassured that you're good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Any anxieties I had were not about the playing, the piece was quite simple. I was anxious that my recording/engineering skills and kit would be found wanting but apparently not so that is good news for me (and my City and Guilds in Audio Engineering }. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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