Guinness21 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Just joined a new band, check them out - https://soundcloud.com/titorsinsignia. It's an originals band, they describe themselves as rock 'n roll, but I'm not sure lol. They also do a couple of covers - come together, another brick in the wall and long way to the top. I just wanted to know if there are any pedals/sounds that would suit or enhance this sound? Are there any pedals that are standardised within this genre of music? I play a stingray 4hh, and I'm using what I think is an old, beat up Ashdown ABM 410T that the band bought themselves. Would appreciate any advice, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Best advice is to get a multi fx unit until you know what pedals you're gonna use. After you get used to which fx does what & what ones you like/need, it'll save you spending money on light up bricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I'd agree with that, and rather predictably I'd suggest the Zoom B3 - unlike other multifx where you're rather circumscribed as to your options (there'll be a compressor/limiter, preamp, modulation, reverb, amp sim) , the B3 gives you three stompboxes in a row which you can do what you like with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 tuner = absolute minimum comp and probably a grit box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinness21 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks for the advice Yeah think it's either the b3, or the boss limiter enhance, tuner and bass overdrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I can vouch for the B3, but don't judge it on its presets. Time spent getting to know it intimately will be repaid. Like it always is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 [quote name='Guinness21' timestamp='1407776080' post='2523899'] Thanks for the advice Yeah think it's either the b3, or the boss limiter enhance, tuner and bass overdrive. [/quote] Try the pedals before buying. I made the mistake of thinking that I needed a compressor & whereas I used compression in the studio, never liked using a compressor pedal live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 [quote name='Guinness21' timestamp='1407776080' post='2523899'] Thanks for the advice Yeah think it's either the b3, or the boss limiter enhance, tuner and bass overdrive. [/quote] There are much better comps out there than the Boss, and if you were referring to Boss for all three - their bass overdrive is more of a heavy fuzzy distortion. I love it personally but I would never label it as an overdrive! If it's just experimenting you're after for now, the Zoom B1on is miles cheaper than the B3 (£49 vs £129), has the same sound quality but with has some extra features (aux in and ability to chain more than 3 fx) and has some effects that aren't on the B3 too. Worth getting for the headphone amp, tuner, looper and drum machine alone, it's a superb practice tool. You probably won't need more than a tuner and an overdrive for now. Which overdrive, now that's a minefield and a slippery slope towards pedal addiction. I'd check out the COG Knightfall, it gets raved about around here. Your amp should has a decent enough compressor built in also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Phaser definitely. Maybe some kind of bit crusher too. Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantgrey Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1407837673' post='2524434'] Maybe some kind of bit crusher too.[/quote] This. Some people will try and convince you that you dont actually NEED a bitcrusher, but dont listen to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 [quote name='elephantgrey' timestamp='1407877260' post='2525047']...you dont actually NEED a bitcrusher, but dont listen to them. [/quote] I'm not sure I should ask, but... What exactly [i]is [/i]a 'bitcrusher'..? [size=4] [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1407904150' post='2525172'] I'm not sure I should ask, but... What exactly [i]is [/i]a 'bitcrusher'..? [size=4] [/size] [/quote] Will make reminisce over a simpler time when 8 bits and collecting coins was all that mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It crushes your bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle psychosis Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 [quote name='elephantgrey' timestamp='1407877260' post='2525047'] This. Some people will try and convince you that you dont actually NEED a bitcrusher, but dont listen to them. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1407766710' post='2523736'] I'd agree with that, and rather predictably I'd suggest the Zoom B3 - unlike other multifx where you're rather circumscribed as to your options (there'll be a compressor/limiter, preamp, modulation, reverb, amp sim) , the B3 gives you three stompboxes in a row which you can do what you like with. [/quote] Plus it has a tuner and DI on it. Very nice bit of kit the B3. Be careful with the blend options though, I found that they were way too full-on. Back off to about halfway on this and the effects become very good indeed. There was a B3 up for grabs on here, maybe still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Blend options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Regarding bitcrushers: I've got a Frantabit now, which does both bitcrushing and sample rate reduction, and I imagined it would replace my Bugbrand Bugcrusher which is just a sample rate reducer, but while the bitcrushing side of things is a cool sound it has to be way up front in the mix to get heard and it's so destructive as to make any other effects earlier in the chain pretty much disappear, whereas the Bugcrusher flavours anything and always leaves enough bottom end in the sound. So for my 2p, sample rate reducers are much more useful on bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantgrey Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I run my frantabit in 3 ways (mostly with the blend about 10:30), as a dirt effect (no sample rate reduction, bits at 10:00~,and then into a defret effect on my zoom unit), as a low-fi (sample rate about 10:00-11:00, no bit reduction) and as a tremolo (sample rate set all the way anticlockwise, no bit reduction, sample rate switch to obliterate). True, I find that I can use the low-fi sample rate reduction as a much more subtle effect than the bit crusher side, but i can find subtle things to do with this peddle. Especially with the switch between actual digital sample rate reduction and a sim of the analogue aliasing like the bugcrusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinness21 Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks for the help. Hadn't previously encountered a bitcrusher, if I'm honest not at all a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1408224627' post='2528274'] Blend options? [/quote] Most of the effects on the B3 either have an effects level or blend, depending on what it`s called on each effect, as well as overall volume. Way too much on most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1408188621' post='2527936'] Plus it has a tuner and DI on it. Very nice bit of kit the B3. Be careful with the blend options though, I found that they were way too full-on. Back off to about halfway on this and the effects become very good indeed. There was a B3 up for grabs on here, maybe still around. [/quote] +1 for the B3. The b1on is also good but I prefer the interface on the b3. But that's just my preference. As previously stated, Zoom effects are very "full on" on their default settings but easily changed to suit your preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xroads Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 [quote name='Skinnyman' timestamp='1408574562' post='2531567'] +1 for the B3. The b1on is also good but I prefer the interface on the b3. But that's just my preference. As previously stated, Zoom effects are very "full on" on their default settings but easily changed to suit your preferences. [/quote] I just got the B3 as well: it's a user-friendly box that has some great sounding effects in there. You basically have 3 pedals in front of you that you can pre-program. For my rock band, I use a compressor, an Ampeg amp model, and a crunch effect from time to time, and it works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Zoom B3 there only £100 at Thomann now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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