budget bassist Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Many a time, I scoffed at the attempts of companies to make lighter, more portable amps and cabs! How silly, just man up and carry it surely?! Following a recent speight of back problems, I have now concluded that I was wrong! Moving just a small cab around today put me in a decent amount of pain. So, here's that dreaded question: What is there in the way of budget lightweight cabs? Cheers all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 How much did that cab weigh? 30lbs is a pretty good weight for a light cab. Go for multiple 112 cabs. And get a trolley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 It's an ashdown MAG 210, so about 30kg? They're not light. You reckon a 110 will be too bright? A trolley could be a good shout, but lifting into the car etc. would probably be the main issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 At risk of being accused of fanboi-ism and cheerleading, Barefaced cabs are very light and very loud. Not budget at their new prices for sure, but they do appear second hand from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1409146132' post='2536801'] At risk of being accused of fanboi-ism and cheerleading, Barefaced cabs are very light and very loud. Not budget at their new prices for sure, but they do appear second hand from time to time. [/quote] Pipe down with the cheerleading fanboi..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurbs Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The worst thing I have is a guitar case. The BFB midget, little giant and notes bag are all a breeze.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 One or two TKS112s come in at a very reasonable weight and price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 [i]Fanbois [/i]to the left of me, [i]fanbois [/i]to the right of me ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1409147895' post='2536823'] [i]Fanbois [/i]to the left of me, [i]fanbois [/i]to the right... [/quote] Here you are, stuck in the middle with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 If you're looking for Ashdown tone go for a couple of Mi10 cabs, around 10kg and 250W each. If you want a light 2x10 maybe a Genz Benz Focus if you can find one or something from the GK MB range or Hartke Hydrive. The Fender rumbles 112 (former series) were also very light and sounded good. If i remember correctly Evil Unded is/was selling a Promethean amp with a Rumble 112 cab, great little setup, light and loud and a great sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1409150121' post='2536854'] If you're looking for Ashdown tone go for a couple of Mi10 cabs, around 10kg and 250W each. If you want a light 2x10 maybe a Genz Benz Focus if you can find one or something from the GK MB range or Hartke Hydrive. The Fender rumbles 112 (former series) were also very light and sounded good. If i remember correctly Evil Unded is/was selling a Promethean amp with a Rumble 112 cab, great little setup, light and loud and a great sound. [/quote] I was actually wondering if anybody had tried those Ashdown ones, I really like the brand, and they're pretty light to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Bergantino CN112 Wonderful thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) I've got the Hydrive 410 and it's not what I would call 'lightweight'. I can see how two of the 12" Hydrive cabs would work though; bright but ballsy, punchy and light. If you join the 'UK Bass Gear North West for Trade & Sale" on Facebook there's a Bergantino AE112 1x12" on there at the moment. Edited August 27, 2014 by paul_5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1409151756' post='2536872'] I've got the Hydrive 410 and it's not what I would call 'lightweight'. I can see how two of the 12" Hydrive cabs would work though; bright but ballsy, punchy and light. If you join the 'UK Bass Gear North West for Trade & Sale" on Facebook there's a Bergantino AE112 1x12" on there at the moment. [/quote] I joined the other day, those bergantino cabs are a little (well, a lot) out of budget though unfortunately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Have you considered building one? There's quite a detailed thread about building your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1409152367' post='2536878'] Have you considered building one? There's quite a detailed thread about building your own. [/quote] I was actually thinking about that, I'll check out the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest monsterthompson Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='budget bassist' timestamp='1409152443' post='2536880'] I was actually thinking about that, I'll check out the thread. [/quote] I'm a Barefaced user and very happy, but they aren't budget. I'm in the US and the fEARful build your own options are popular. A 210 is a bad reference point because the magnet to cone area ratio ends up tipping the scales unfavorably compared to a 12" cab. I'd say the super 12 cabs are more spendy, but they often have higher sensitivity to input, so you get more bang for the buck. If you can find 2 112 cabs I think you get a good blend of output and modularity. If you can find (and like the tone of) the Markbass 604, I think that cab is pretty easy to move, not terribly heavy, and fairly loud for the size. In fact, I've found (dealing with my own injury issues) that cabs that are heavy aren't as bad as cabs that are awkwardly shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='budget bassist' timestamp='1409145722' post='2536795'] It's an ashdown MAG 210, so about 30kg? They're not light. You reckon a 110 will be too bright? A trolley could be a good shout, but lifting into the car etc. would probably be the main issue. [/quote] A 112 would be an easy lift in to the car and 2 of them would cover any gig, and IMO would sound better than a 110 or 210. What's your budget? A Barefaced Compact is 26lbs and sounds pretty good as a 1 cab solution and there are several Bergantino AE112 cabs in the classifieds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1409155604' post='2536922'] A 112 would be an easy lift in to the car and 2 of them would cover any gig, and IMO would sound better than a 110 or 210. What's your budget? A Barefaced Compact is 26lbs and sounds pretty good as a 1 cab solution and there are several Bergantino AE112 cabs in the classifieds. [/quote] No more than about £200 probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 As far as I have been able to work out 'budget' and 'lightweight' are not two words that go together - at least, not with 'worth using' added into the equation. The quality of the materials, engineering and construction have to be top notch in order for them to be lightweight. Using a trolley isn't a viable option if you have issues with your back (depending upon the actual problem, of course). At some point whatever cab you have is going to have to be lifted into and out of your car and, inevitably, with no help available at some point. So it has to be lightweight. I am another Barefaced Cab user - Compact and Midget. I couldn't be happier with them. I've just seen your latest post - £200 won't get you anything lightweight worth using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Half tempted to try and build my own as earlier mentioned - I have access to a cnc router and can do the CAD myself, materials won't cost too much if I find some thin plywood, and I could nick a speaker out of my MAG, or get hold of a lightweight neodymium speaker I reckon. Looks like DIY is the way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lw. Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='budget bassist' timestamp='1409145722' post='2536795'] It's an ashdown MAG 210, so about 30kg? They're not light. [/quote] I've recently done a similar thing (downsizing the stack) but the thing I downsized to was one of these, it's the lightest bass cab I've ever lifted - perspective is everything I guess. I'd echo what others have said though; maybe buy a used 1*12 now then you can always get another one down the line for if you're doing bigger gigs (though if they're that big you could just use the monitors). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1409152367' post='2536878'] Have you considered building one? There's quite a detailed thread about building your own. [/quote] +1 although it's rarely as cheap as you might think. A good design, quality drivers and decent wood should top your priority list. Save your money elsewhere with a paint finish etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest monsterthompson Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 talkbass favorites are [url="http://greenboy.us/fEARful/"]http://greenboy.us/fEARful/[/url] and [url="http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/"]http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/[/url] for DIY cab plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 As has been said, cheap and light don`t generally go together. A couple of 112s would be a good solution, it`s just finding reasonably priced, but connected to a good amp two 112s I find plenty enough for the music I play and the size of the venues/stages. Enough for regular sized pubs without going through the PA, plenty enough on big stages when going through FOH. And my band is not quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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