Shedua511 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I would think that to put a your signature on something you had to be alive... AC is very much alive, but he does give the impression that for a reasonable fee he will put his signature on anything, which kind of negates the whole idea of being behind a product. The whole marketing thing with signature instruments is kind of sad anyway, the idea being that the consumer is so stupid that he/she will believe that getting the same instrument as their hero will make them sound the same... besides, in 99% of the cases it's not the same instrument at all, it just looks the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I've got nothing against sig basses - had a couple of Geddy's - so as long as it's a nice bass, that's fine. However, I think that any sig bass should be an iconic instrument that one identifies with the player - Ged's played that black Jazz for over 30 years, so no problems there. Don't see how AC playing a Jazz on a U2 album some years ago puts him in that club! Just think that Fender should cut their sig range by about 3/4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 In summary: [list] [*]Some of us will buy signature basses but only if we like the actual bass, the signature itself is immaterial [*]We all like Dee Dee Ramone [*]None of us like Adam Clayton [/list] I agree with all of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlungerModerno Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I agree with the above and the above agreement. spongebob is correct about the signature instrument thing - it needs to be their iconic, signature instrument for it to have real significance. A few albums and/or major tours with the instrument as a main recording/playing bass is the minimum. That or a truly signature design a la Mr. Simmons and his axe basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) [quote name='uk_lefty' timestamp='1414952712' post='2595003'] In summary:[list] [*]Some of us will buy signature basses but only if we like the actual bass, the signature itself is immaterial [*]We all like Dee Dee Ramone [*]None of us like Adam Clayton [/list] I agree with all of the above. [/quote] In order Wouldn't even think of it - it's just silly Sorry - have never heard any Ramones He's not popular around here, but he did make me want to take up bass so he's not all bad, and the sunburst 70s p in total relic is an iconic image so maybe that should be the sig model with some tweaks ? I did read an interview where he expressed fondness for that bass above all others. Equally, he did to be fair, play the green jazz on Live Aid in front of 18 squillion people and in the New Years Day video, so its probably not a bad choice for a sig Edited November 2, 2014 by Geek99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Its funny that they make a sig of a bass someone played later as the version they played then was just a regular version, if that makes sense? No one needed a Flea Stingray sig in the 90s because it was just a black Stingray that could have ended up being owned by anyone, its all a nonsense to me im affraid unless its a proper recreation of an old design with correct pickups etc or something like a Bryan May guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I won't buy a Steve Harris sig despite being a fan for 35 years. To me his ICONIC bass is the white 70's P with the Hammers crest and painted lines. THAT I would buy because to me IT LOOKS SUPERB! It also brings back memories of so many Maiden gigs. One day I may try to find somebody to fo the art work and just get it done on a standard P. Because it is so recognisable to Maiden fans, I think that at the Dog and Duck on a Sat night, it would send out a subliminal message to a few. "Yes, I know this is Summer of 69 but I would much rather be playing Phantom of the Opera" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strtdv Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1410349322' post='2548374'] Last I saw, Adam Clayton was playing his Warwick sig bass? Maybe he's skint :-D [/quote] Given that itunes bought their last album for $100million, I doubt it. I actually saw them play a couple of years ago and as far as I remember it was mostly his Warwick and Lakland he was using. Is that Jazz in Sherwood green metallic? I've always liked that colour, and always liked block inlays too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markorbit Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 None of the above basses particularly interest me although if the AC had binding I would give it a second look and hope the signature is a bit scrawly so no one can tell who's it is :-). You are right about the random choice of some signature instruments. Why Herbie Flowers (with the SAME LPB Jazz bass for over 50 years !!) or JJ Burnel (Precision most of the way - and a trendsetter) haven't been acknowledged beats me. I think a 1959/60 LPB Jazz with U neck and stack knobs at a sensible price point would interest more people beyond the signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I like this one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1415285519' post='2598778'] I like this one! [/quote] It's stupid and patronising though. When I played in my classic rock covers band I could have done the vast majority of our set on a two string bass with an E and an A string, yet I don't see anyone knocking the bass players from the bands whose songs we were covering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It has nothing to do with the number of strings, he'd be a boring player with any number of strings. Cult 'She sells sanctuary' is a great bassline with 2 strings and a pick, Clayton just doesnt appear to do much for many bassist but I'm sure he has heard all this before, good on him I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1415285519' post='2598778'] I like this one! [/quote] Lmao that is funny . I come into this thread thinking how much i dislike U2. But actually i do like many of there songs. Also i believe basslines can be very simple and very effective. Good on anyone who plays bass effectively in whatever manner. However Fender really need to stop doing uncool signature models. Actually signature models are ok long as there's no signature on them, least then you don't have to explain anything. Or you could change your name and use the same sig thats on your bass hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1415382370' post='2599841'] Cult 'She sells sanctuary' is a great bassline with 2 strings and a pick. [/quote] And that line is repeated many times (with a few subtle differences) throughout their recordings Pete, and I never tire of it as the songs they use it on are invariably great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 [quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1415285519' post='2598778'] I like this one! [/quote] Well, actually, I think his Atlansia sig quite the thing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeystrange Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I wonder what happened to the Dee Dee sig? Haven't heard a single thing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samfordia Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 A Peter Hook Yamaha sig would be of interest to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Cannot accept the Adam Clayton hate here He is a bass icon whether you like his playing or not, it's U2 I bet he was responsible for a large proportion of bass players here picking the instrument up in the first place (me included) Listen to War, brilliant in your face bass, groovy, funky, rock solid Half the attraction was that he wasn't technically perfect - U2 came out of punk don't forget When he started taking lessons in the 2000s all the character disappeared from his playing - a damn shame Ibanez should do a signature model of his 80s Musician, that's the iconic one (watch Red Rocks) The green Jazz is a strange one, agreed, still want one though If you could merge Adam and Doug Wimbish you would have the perfect bass player, Doug Clayton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You can't accept the hate or you don't want to accept it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) I'm shocked that Clayton a) had lessons and b.) possibly got worse as a result.... or am I ? Edited November 16, 2014 by Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Guess this brings out the old what's best the technically superior player who is the commensurate weekend warrior/bedroom player or the multi multi multi millionaire in a global band who hacks at the bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 [quote name='martthebass' timestamp='1416162542' post='2607496'] Guess this brings out the old what's best the technically superior player who is the commensurate weekend warrior/bedroom player or the multi multi multi millionaire in a global band who hacks at the bass? [/quote] Not really. Most estimates put Clayton's 'net worth' at $150m...which is somewhat behind Marcus Miller who is worth approx $215m. I'll take brilliant musician who is also minted over the slightly less minted hack any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Id take Claytons job and be happy to put up with us lot saying how bad I am Its one of only a handful of gigs I'd wager I could actually manage too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1416163205' post='2607501'] Not really. Most estimates put Clayton's 'net worth' at $150m...which is somewhat behind Marcus Miller who is worth approx $215m. I'll take brilliant musician who is also minted over the slightly less minted hack any day. [/quote] I'm not fighting principles over a mere $65M....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbayne Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Maybe if he learned a couple of pentatonic scales then he wouldnt have to churn out his root note uninspiring lines week in week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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