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#1 Uberkate

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 12:43 PM

I bought an Orange Rocker 30 combo roughly three years ago, expecting it to be built like a tank. It was second hand but in like new condition, only having been used in the previous owner's house for noodling.

I found external things started breaking down a lot quicker than I was expecting :( I use it fairly regularly for gigs and practises and it's been on one weekend tour - hardly heavy duty use.

Few knobs have gone off the top (need to screw 'em back on), the rubber handle has split on one edge, so that the metal strap underneath is exposed, and at the last gig I played the bloody badge came off the front!

Of course they're all things that can be easily repaired or replaced but it's really annoying and disappointing. You have to expect a bit of wear and tear but it just seems ridiculous to me that an internationally renowned amp company can't make their rubber handle straps last. You should at least be able to lift the thing up and down without the strap tearing! Or screw their knobs on properly...

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 07:25 PM

Knobs with grubscrews always work loose - screw them back on and put a little blob of clear nail varnish in the screw hole.

Rubber handles have broken like this since ever they were invented, but they're dead cheap and take only minutes to replace.

These items have been superseded by more modern equivalents, but any manufacturer making amps to reflect a certain era, as Orange do, have their choices kinda limited. :)
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Posted 11 September 2014 - 08:43 PM

As far as I know they're not the same company that made the original Orange amps.

I think it was Music Ground bought up a load of the old names (Hiwatt is another example) & started churning out visually similar but inferior products featuring the name.

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 08:47 AM

View Posticastle, on 10 September 2014 - 07:25 PM, said:

Knobs with grubscrews always work loose - screw them back on and put a little blob of clear nail varnish in the screw hole.


If I were you, I'd put the nail varnish in the holes before you screw them back on.

No need to thank me ...

More seriously, I wouldn't use nail varnish. What you want (IMHO) is http://uk.rs-online....=PSF_435926|alt

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Which he did.

At which point both screws/bolts ripped clean through the top and the 27Kg amplifier fell about two feet onto the floor.

I decided not to buy it.
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Posted 12 September 2014 - 09:24 PM

View PostHappy Jack, on 12 September 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

If I were you, I'd put the nail varnish in the holes before you screw them back on.

No need to thank me ...

More seriously, I wouldn't use nail varnish. What you want (IMHO) is http://uk.rs-online....=PSF_435926|alt

You're totally right.

I was trying to keep it simple because those little grub screws can be a right sod to get back in once you've taken them out. :)
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Posted 12 September 2014 - 09:57 PM

View PostHappy Jack, on 12 September 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

...I decided not to buy it.

Really..? Why was that..? :blink:
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:21 PM

View PostDad3353, on 12 September 2014 - 09:57 PM, said:

Really..? Why was that..? :blink:
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 02:03 PM

View PostKiwi, on 16 September 2014 - 12:21 PM, said:

A drop in quality...perchance?
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:39 AM

View PostHappy Jack, on 12 September 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

I decided not to buy it.

Sounds like a weighty decision

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 11:45 AM

View PostHappy Jack, on 12 September 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

At which point both screws/bolts ripped clean through the top and the 27Kg amplifier fell about two feet onto the floor.

Was the floor ok??

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 09:54 AM

Matamp *used* to make the cabs for Orange.
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Posted 07 November 2014 - 09:29 PM

Surprised at this. An old band mate had an AD30 and matching 4x12 cab bought brand new in around '05 - built like a tank and weighed a bloody ton. Shame if things have gone downhill.

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Posted 07 November 2014 - 10:03 PM

Quite. The Morris Oxford is no longer made, either, I'm told. Everything's gone to the dogs. :mellow:
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Posted 31 December 2014 - 10:18 PM

Only Matamp make Matamps (or Ormat, if you must) - talk to Jeff - the handles don't fall off his stuff......

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 10:32 AM

Yup +1 for Matamp's build quality. The old stuff is ace, and the modern Matamp kit is every bit as good.

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 11:44 AM

Can I use regular superglue to get the Orange badge back onto the grille or will this damage it?

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Posted 09 February 2015 - 11:45 AM

TBH I like the unbadged look and would take the crest badge off too, but it leaves behind a squiggle of old hardened glue that doesn't look very smart!





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