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Posted 28 November 2014 - 11:28 AM

There seems to be more performers than exhibitors at the moment :blink:
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 03:11 PM

View PostDorsetBlue, on 28 November 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Just watching 'Babylon' and the Bass Guitar Show got a mention as a bomb threat target this year lol. Bit of an extreme way to get rid of Slap Bass! :lol:
Well they have been asked politely to desist in the past and this has been studiously ignored (maybe they couldn't hear the request) so more 'firm' measures need to be taken :D
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 06:05 PM

Problem with all this loud sound stuff is that when you are asking exhibitors to pay such a lot of money to exhibit, they need to do their best in order to make their money back. Reducing the period in which sound can be made reduces the chances of somebody actually making a purchase - especially when everybody is at it full hog in that period.

In short, there is no solution. There is no way that I would buy a bass based on what I'd heard through headphones.... likewise, I wouldn't buy an amp without hearing what it can do.

Call me pessimistic, but maybe shows just aren't a great idea for retail and making noise. :-/

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Posted 28 November 2014 - 06:20 PM

I think rather than alter how they are run I have just accepted they are not for me, you need to realise for those guys/gals "schlappin da shid" out of a Statii all day is 'their gig' IMO. So me telling them to stop is the same as people telling me to stop during my gigs (which they sometimes do, lol).

It is a shame but there you go, I have moved along :)
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 06:55 PM

Would be nice to attend but the trouble is it is such an expensive day out buy the time you put in the costs for buses/taxis train fairs and admission you can easily spend £150 before you even start and to be honest I dont think there are many average Joes who can afford to shell out that kind of money on going to the show and there is not much meat and potatoes gear it all seems to be really high end stuff.

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 05:21 PM

View Postezbass, on 28 November 2014 - 03:11 PM, said:

Well they have been asked politely to desist in the past and this has been studiously ignored (maybe they couldn't hear the request) so more 'firm' measures need to be taken :D

Ha ha, although there was a bomb sniffing dog at the guitar show which was a bit unnerving.
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Posted 03 December 2014 - 09:31 PM

If you think slapping is bad, check out the London Drum Show. Drummers beating the crap out of kits and symbols for two days. Now that's loud.
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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:36 AM

Very exciting news - Lee Rocker returns to the show in March! http://www.londonbas...eturns-to-lbgs/

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:26 PM

AER would be nice to compare to the other kit there, maybe take one away with :gas:

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 04:27 PM

Oh and Nordy with a few nice basses and a basket full of pups

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 09:25 AM

I'd like to see a time limit for testing basses, say maybe 15 mins max. Last year I sat watching this guy beat the crap out of a precision copy with his thumb, nothing but high volume, bad slap, and I really wanted to test a bass at that stand. In the end I walked away. Standardize the limit with a time clock for each exhibitor and make the policy clear. Straight and simple.
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 09:26 AM

I'd also like to stick my hand up for no 5 pound seat tickets. Ta!

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 02:11 PM

Noise has always been an issue at these gatherings.

I worked in the MI industry some 30 years ago and it was an issue back then at the BMF - although frantic slapping and 1000w amplifiers certainly weren't 'the norm' back then.

The noisiest days were the ones where the doors were opened to 'punters' (as opposed to the MI trade) and attempts to control that failed miserably year after year.

Fast forward 30 years and the same problem remains - as soon as you charge punters an entry fee they have expectations, and if that expectation is to bash a fingerboard senseless at a volume that is approaching that of a WMD, then that's what happens.

My solution as an exhibitor was to put cotton wool in my ears on those days (earplugs weren't about back then).
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 09:16 PM

I see complaints every year about slap but if you want a crowd of people to stand and watch a demo then wheel out the slap. We tried what would be regarded as normal bass playing last year and there was little to no interest. Kicked of with the slap and audience straight away. So while everyone seems to complain about it they also seem to stand and watch/listen. Solution no idea,I have accepted that it is the nature of a bass show it gets loud and there is slap bass.
The quiet period every year starts of quite well but as the day wears on it is steadily ignored by stands and customers. I bring along a decent headphone setup and found last year more people where interested in using that than the amp.
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 09:53 PM

View Postskelf, on 07 December 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

I see complaints every year about slap but if you want a crowd of people to stand and watch a demo then wheel out the slap. We tried what would be regarded as normal bass playing last year and there was little to no interest. Kicked of with the slap and audience straight away.

I am obviously the loner, I really do not enjoy the sound of slap bass. It would make me walk away! As a newbie and punter all this talk of too much noise is not selling me the event. I am keen to come along, but earplugs / cotton wool / endless slapping demos and, hmmm, I will need to think some more.
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 10:27 PM

I've been once, and perhaps it is noisy but we go to gigs or play on stages that are waaaay noisier than this so I don't get what people's problem is. Want a quiet day out - go to an art gallery (perhaps not Tate Modern, overcrowded with disinterested chatty tourists...).

Will I go again? I'd love to check out the Maruszczyk's, say hi to Adrian, or drool at other extravagant gear at prices from outer space. But the admission ticket for 1 day at £20+ is a bit steep. If there were shop stalls with gear we always buy like strings, cables, etc. that sold this stuff at prices below the usual bargains you can find e.g. online, then it makes sense. At the moment I am not so sure.
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 10:28 PM

I am with you I don't like slap but having tried our experiment last year the majority seem to like it even though the majority seem to complain about it. The show is excellent you don't spend the whole day in the exhibitors section there are plenty of other things to do. So you can spend short bursts in the main hall that way it is not really a problem. The noise and the slap are only a problem if you spend the entire day in the hall then it gets a bit wearing. The guys that I see as the problem are the ones that have a party piece and play the same thing on every stand and go to every stand over the day they don't appear to be there to try gear more to show of. Might be totally wrong but having been there for three years you get time to watch what is going on.

First year I was there I hated it there was a constant barrage of slap and widdling from a nearby stand and it just wore me down. However the last two years have been much better and hopefully that will continue.

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 11:46 AM

I will be going next year. I went this year. I found it no worse than the Basschat get together in Addlestone last year. There was loads of slapping and people trying to outdo each other with noise there, so perhaps it is quite hard to stop the noise as no one did anything about it . I did expect it as it is a bass show, so it didn`t bother me. I really enjoyed both events despite the noise. While £20 is a bit of cash, there isn`t much you can do for that money these days, so it isn`t too bad. I have no plans to buy anything, but it is nice to see all the gear.
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Posted 08 December 2014 - 02:17 PM

I'm guessing that all the anti-slappers won't be queing up to see Mr King then? :)

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 04:33 PM

I tried out a bass last year the LBGS and a couple of the people on the stand were amazed at me playing a UK Subs bassline on it, and not just hammering/slapping away at it like everyone else. They probably thought I was a bit of a caveman.
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Posted 08 December 2014 - 04:48 PM

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I tried out a bass last year the LBGS and a couple of the people on the stand were amazed at me playing a UK Subs bassline on it, and not just hammering/slapping away at it like everyone else. They probably thought I was a bit of a caveman.
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Posted 30 December 2014 - 05:47 PM

Some people I would like to see there who I don't think have been there recently or at all:
Stefan Redtenbacher, Paul Geary and other members of Bass Guitar Magazine
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As for the slap argument - who cares? Yes slapping is lame but you can leave those guys to do their thing and and you do yours and you will stand out more if you're only there to show off. Easy!

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 05:52 PM

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1 day at £20+ is a bit steep. If there were shop stalls with gear we always buy like strings, cables, etc. that sold this stuff at prices below the usual bargains you can find e.g. online, then it makes sense. At the moment I am not so sure.

A bit steep? This is a whole day of bass goodieness for less than a ticket to see any name band play an hour long gig.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 08:33 PM

I don't feel enough major bass brands have signed up to drag me there this year. So last minute yes or no for me. If they can't be bothered why should I.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:45 PM

A bit stunned about the complaints regarding high volumes.

If I´m off to some kind of gathering where it´s a lot of gear that you could try out, I´d be pissed if I didn´t get to try the stuff decent.
I think most of us attending these kind of events, or like Musikmesse in Frankfurt, a big reason for it is to try stuff you can´t find in the local stores.

In Sweden we have a Bassforum called Pratabas (talk bass in swedish..) and there is this meating every year where like 60-ish bassplayers with looooooads of gear get together and averyone brings all their stuff. Parts of the members is there to meat up, drink som bear and bully all the slappers, and a rather big part is there to have the ability to test eatchothers gear.
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There´s been some discussion about the soundlevels there as well, but if you couldn´t be able to try stuff decently, the whole idea would be pointless.

I saw this thread and thought "Heck, I were just about to book a trip to London early this year, and why not try to plan it so it´s the same dates as this thing?"
But if it´s just clinics and no testing of gear, well, I don´t think I´m gonna bother.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:03 PM

BassGear are signed up as well now and we're really pleased to have Roger Sadowsky, plus a selection of his basses, with us on the stand for the weekend.

Roger will be around to talk about his instruments, the art of a pro setup, commissioning a custom build etc.

It's very rare to see him over here so for any Sadowsky fans it'll be well worth coming along for a chat :)
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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:09 AM

I think the presence of Lee Rocker might mean I'll pull my finger out this year :)

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 10:00 AM

I've bought my ticket, can't wait. Now Sadowsky are there I'm even more interested. Might even empty my bank account and invest in a new bass

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:31 AM

One performer I would like to see is Adam Ben Ezra. Something for the acoustic low end followers amongst us. That would make a change from the norm.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 11:30 AM

The focus seems to have shifted from a show about bass gear to becoming a show about bass players with the emphasis on clinics etc. I'd much prefer to see the show focusing on attracting as many manufacturers as possible.
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