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Sandberg California VM series. i have one and its a beast!!! I had mine fitted at the factory with Haussel pickups for a more aggressive tone than the Delano's that come as stock.

[url="http://www.sandberg-guitars.de/basscat-overview/calv-series/calvm"]http://www.sandberg-guitars.de/basscat-overview/calv-series/calvm[/url]

The MM tends to act more of a Jazz pup on steroids rather than sounding MM, its a little closer to the bridge. Cant say i have seen a bass with this configuration with the bridge pup actually in the MM sweet spot.

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Yip hot rods and deluxes from various years left the factory in this format. Here's a few I just found mooching through the Precision gear porn thread

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2006 American Deluxe Precision - sold to Bass Chatter Bottlebassman:




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Didn't know if one of these variants had been posted so here's a recent acquisition of mine:


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My 2003 USA Precision De Luxe. The only bass I've ever bought new. All standard, no mods. Currently strung with flats.


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Left: my (like) new American Deluxe Precision V:


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[quote name='Dazed' timestamp='1419120149' post='2636872']
Yip hot rods and deluxes from various years left the factory in this format. Here's a few I just found mooching through the Precision gear porn thread
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Tried a Fender hot rod P (or possibly 2 of them) when I spent a day at Bass Direct, and came home with this Sandberg VM4:



Reason for purchase: The Sandberg urinated all over the Fender(s) from a great height!

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[quote name='Dazed' timestamp='1419120149' post='2636872']
Yip hot rods and deluxes from various years left the factory in this format. Here's a few I just found mooching through the Precision gear porn thread
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They all have a humbucker at the bridge, but none at the MM position. Those are all more like P/J basses, with a fatter J than usual.

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[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1419169922' post='2637146']

the stingray man is right...
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Looking at the Sandberg and the 'ray in you profile picture, it looks like the Sandberg MM is closer to the bridge isn't it?

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[quote name='dood' timestamp='1419177080' post='2637233']
Looking at the Sandberg and the 'ray in you profile picture, it looks like the Sandberg MM is closer to the bridge isn't it?
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I think most (all but the legendary Pingray) have the P in the P spot and then move the MM back, I guess that makes it lose a bit of the Ray bottom end power? Other basses with the MM in the right place have the P nearer the neck which I presume goes against what P lover love about the P, worst of both worlds IMO, I was hugely underwhelmed by the Sandberg's version off a Stingray even though it was a nice bass in everyway.

MM in the right place with a single coil in the neck position surely equals either a HS Stingray or a Lakland 55-02, 55-14, 55-94 depending on pocket depth!

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[quote name='dood' timestamp='1419177080' post='2637233']
Looking at the Sandberg and the 'ray in you profile picture, it looks like the Sandberg MM is closer to the bridge isn't it?
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Yes, the Sandberg in thar picture reversed the P, but left the MM closer to the bridge than on a Stingray. That's not to say it's wrong, I'm sure it sounds great! Only that it won't do the Stingray vibe, more a fat Jazz one.

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[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1419179009' post='2637268']
MM in the right place with a single coil in the neck position surely equals either a HS Stingray or a Lakland 55-02, 55-14, 55-94 depending on pocket depth!
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No, the 5502 has the MM closer to the bridge too (I owned one), and so do the others.

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How about this Schecter as a cheaper alternative to the Sandberg - also available as a 4 string and in metallic blue. This fiver in white though is £529 on Andertons as opposed to £1062 for the equivalent Sandberg on Thomann so, near as makes no odds, almost exactly half the price.
Bridge pickup is a bit closer to the bridge than a MM but with a coil tap by means of the push/pull tone pot I reckon there should still be a pretty good mix of tones available given its a passive bass.

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This is a bass I put together. The P was in the standard Fender sweetspot. The MM was a touch further back towards the bridge (you cannot overlap the MM and the P "sweetspots" whichever way round you put the P coils).
The bass worked really well, but the MM, whether series or parallel, always overpowered the P in any attempt at mixing the two. So ultimately, when mixing them, I always used the MM in single coil mode, so basically making the bass a PJ setup at that point.
I'll be honest and admit that I have never been a fan of the std MM-type sound though. Nowadays I stick to PJ's.

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[quote name='Dazed' timestamp='1419120149' post='2636872']
Yip hot rods and deluxes from various years left the factory in this format. Here's a few I just found mooching through the Precision gear porn thread

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1295296272' post='1093058']
2006 American Deluxe Precision - sold to Bass Chatter Bottlebassman:




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That's my ex-bass and I still have that rug. I did around 100 gigs with that bass. I have some regrets at no longer having it.

Anyway, I don't think the double Jazz humbucker sounded like a Music Man humbucker. It mostly sounded more like a Jazz.

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