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[b]NSLD - New Strap Lock Day - LOXX Content[/b]

I recently acquired a set of Schaller straplocks for my Spector Euro and all was more or less OK for a while, but I didn't like the way they held the strap out from the body of the bass - what I mean is, there seemed to be to much leverage or slack in the system and the whole design seemed a bit too clunky to me.

So I read about these LOXX straplocks which are low-profile and hold the strap much closer to the body of the bass... I ordered a set from Bass Direct. They are super-easy to fit using the supplied multi-purpose tool and a doddle to use, being a one-hand on-and-off, and the strap occupies much the same space it would had you not used straplocks, i.e. as if you were using normal strap buttons. The screw threads are very slightly wider than your stock button screws and so are rock solid. There is also a longer XL version for use with thick leather straps.



[url="http://www.loxxusa.com/"]http://www.loxxusa.com/[/url]
[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Loxx_Locks.html"]http://www.bassdirec...Loxx_Locks.html[/url]

The only downside for me is the gold version is quite a bit more costly than the others for some bizarre reason, but hey, I like 'em! The price of the chrome set is about the same as that supplied by Schaller and Dunlop. I will let you know how I get on with them.

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I have no connection with, or affilliation to either LOXX or Bass Direct! I thank you! :)

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Love the design, but any strap that completely relies on a little pin makes me very uncomfortable!

The schaller design is such that, if the mechanism fails, the bass will not crash to the floor. If this (and others like it,Warwick, Dunlop etc) system fails....

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[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1419250763' post='2637948']
Love the design, but any strap that completely relies on a little pin makes me very uncomfortable!
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Know what you mean, but according to the blurb the pin can resist a force of 220lb.
Even 70s Fenders aren't THAT heavy. :D

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[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1419250763' post='2637948']
Love the design, but any strap that completely relies on a little pin makes me very uncomfortable!

The schaller design is such that, if the mechanism fails, the bass will not crash to the floor. If this (and others like it,Warwick, Dunlop etc) system fails....
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My schaller strap lock had a major fail a few months back and my bass would have certainly hit the floor if I hadn't managed to stop it.

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I'm also looking for an alternative to the Schallers that I normally use. Finding it slightly painful trying to pull out the tiny pin and push down at the same time to remove the strap. Plus the nut comes loose every so often and I invariably forget to tighten it after the gig so go to the next gig with it still loose.

These look like there is something more substantial to hold onto and they pull straight out so no trying to pull the strap in two directions at once

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I'm still a fan of Dunlops. If poorly maintained (same goes for Schallers), then they'll fail. A little dab of oil every now and again keeps the bits that have to move moving correctly. When I moved the Wal on, it had a 14 year old set of Dunlops on, and they've never failed.

The Streamer Stage 1 that I picked up from Kev came with Warwick's own Dunlop style, which he's never used as he's already said, he doesn't trust them. To be honest, given the weight of the bass, I was more worried about the strap button itself failing. Sent it in to have recessed Dunlops fitted, so the bass can take some more of it's own weight, and I was amazed by just how weedy the screw holding the button on was :o

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[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1419256195' post='2638031']
My schaller strap lock had a major fail a few months back and my bass would have certainly hit the floor if I hadn't managed to stop it.
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How did it fail? I've been using them for nearly 30 years and never had a failure.

As far as the nuts holding the straplocks to the strap goes, there's a Schaller clone made by Boston which has two nuts per strap end - so the first nut tightens down and the second nut locks it.

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[quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1419256195' post='2638031']
My schaller strap lock had a major fail a few months back and my bass would have certainly hit the floor if I hadn't managed to stop it.
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How on earth did that happen? Did the strap button/screw fall out? Or where you jumping round like a lunatic? :lol:

I can't see how it could fail to the point of the bass falling any other way...

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Thread resurrection! How are you guys getting on with Loxx strap locks?
I'm looking at getting a set for a new bass. Supposedly Loxx directly replace most stock strap button screw without need for matchsticks and wood glue!

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[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1420670113' post='2652116']
How on earth did that happen? Did the strap button/screw fall out? Or where you jumping round like a lunatic? :lol:

I can't see how it could fail to the point of the bass falling any other way...
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Kev, don't know why I didn't reply to this at the time.
The failure was caused by wear, upon close inspection it was just possible to make out. Have to say, they had served me well for a good few years but it was enough to put me off.

Since the Schaller fail, I've just been using the pink grolsh type rubber washers. Purchased a dozen or so for a couple of quid, from one of the home brew sellers on Ebay.
So far, so brilliant.

Another thing I like, is that there is no risk of wacking the bass with the strap lock when attaching/removing the strap at a gig.

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+1 for Schaller over here. Never failed on me but it's not perfect, it has it's issues. Had a bass where the strap button occasionally come loose so i filled the body with a wodden dowel to make the screw fit better (edited to add that this is really not an issue with the locking system but the screw that came with it was too thin for that bass). Also, since i have a minotaur strap wich is thicker the nut that secures the strap to the locking mechanism tens to come loose after a while, i need to find a way to make it more stable, maybe using a nut with some sort of grip system.

Considering all issues i had with schaller i still prefer to use them over the dunlop/warwick system where the simple fail on that tiny clip/spring can make the whole mechanism come loose. With schaller there's two types of security and if the clip/spring fails the fit mechanism still supports the bass.

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I put the strap onto the strap button and then lock the straplock over the top. Don't attach the strap lock to the strap. That way, the strap lock can't rotate on the strap so the weight of the bass is hanging on the locking pin, which seems to be the main cause of failure. The weight of the bass is always on the strap.

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[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1435594054' post='2810385']
Also, since i have a minotaur strap wich is thicker the nut that secures the strap to the locking mechanism tens to come loose after a while, i need to find a way to make it more stable, maybe using a nut with some sort of grip system.
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The Boston straplocks which are Schaller clones have two nuts - tighten the first one onto the strap, then tighten the second onto the first which locks it.

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