icastle Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1428498213' post='2741821'] That's probably reasonable if a 13A fuse blows before the tripping of a 16A circuit breaker. I'm not that much of an expert, but from what I see published as performance figures, it would seem that a modern CB would trip much faster than a fuse. Depending on the overload, a fuse can hold up for up to an hour before melting. Under those same conditions, a CB would last only a few minutes. For outright short-circuits, too, the CB wins each time.Fuses are a rather clumsy method, after all (which is why CB's were developed and adopted for domestic protection...). I'd be more convinced if there was a CB in the plug, rather than a fuse, but that would be too expensive, I suppose. Still, as long as Albion has its citizens protection at heart, all is well. [/quote] Unfortunately, that's often what happens when you mix old and new technologies. Fuses are crude and comparatively erratic (any impurities in the fusible link, and even ambient temperature, can make a difference). Compared to other countries we may be a bit 'belt and braces' but, having seen Spanish wiring burst into flames, I'm certainly OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1428499321' post='2741836'] ...having seen Spanish wiring burst into flames, I'm certainly OK with that. [/quote] Is that what the renowned 'Latin Fire' is all about..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1428498213' post='2741821'] That's probably reasonable if a 13A fuse blows before the tripping of a 16A circuit breaker. I'm not that much of an expert, but from what I see published as performance figures, it would seem that a modern CB would trip much faster than a fuse. Depending on the overload, a fuse can hold up for up to an hour before melting. Under those same conditions, a CB would last only a few minutes. For outright short-circuits, too, the CB wins each time.Fuses are a rather clumsy method, after all (which is why CB's were developed and adopted for domestic protection...). I'd be more convinced if there was a CB in the plug, rather than a fuse, but that would be too expensive, I suppose. Still, as long as Albion has its citizens protection at heart, all is well. [/quote] Yes. But we have 3, 5 and 10amp fuses as well. It means you don't have to wire a table lamp with 2.5mm2 wire and then your 40w table lamp bulb isn't backed up with a 16amp breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1428501144' post='2741854'] Is that what the renowned 'Latin Fire' is all about..? [/quote] Ole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='keeponehandloose' timestamp='1428493610' post='2741741'] Thomann now seem to be sending a Uk mains kettle lead with orders , free of charge.. [/quote] There you are, then. Order a kettle lead from Thomann and they'll send you two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='Left Foot' timestamp='1428495738' post='2741770'] I thought... [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1428504257' post='2741917'] [/quote] Quite. Whereas I thought, "Follow me, I'm a kettle!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1428489573' post='2741694'] Which kettle is best for metal? [/quote] A metal kettle. But the most metally is John Kettley. [size=3][b]Kettley[/b]: Not Bob Carolgees[/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If this were a hifi forum, we would have been discussing the relative tonal merits of different kettle cables by now. Those 5amp ones are a bit of a one trick pony, if you ask me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 [URL=http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Just%20Stuff/Sundry/fusereplacement.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Just%20Stuff/Sundry/fusereplacement.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1428503043' post='2741891'] Ole! [/quote] Actually 'Ole!' is a misquote of 'Vale!', which sort of means 'OK!' *expires and joins discreet in mass grave dedicated to victims of own pedantry* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1428526741' post='2742233'] A metal kettle. But the most metally is John Kettley. [size=3][b]Kettley[/b]: Not Bob Carolgees[/size] [/quote] And so is Michael Fish!! Is it time to post the Russ Andrews link again? Always good for a laugh - http://www.russandrews.com/default.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 [quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1428683940' post='2743803'] And so is Michael Fish!! Is it time to post the Russ Andrews link again? Always good for a laugh - http://www.russandrews.com/default.asp [/quote] I feel some Amazon reviews coming on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 [quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1428683940' post='2743803'] And so is Michael Fish!! Is it time to post the Russ Andrews link again? Always good for a laugh - http://www.russandrews.com/default.asp [/quote] Oh no not the Russ Andrews link! I'm off to listen to my Naim, DIN plugs and all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 [quote name='TimR' timestamp='1428489604' post='2741697'] You'll probably find two types a 5A one and a 13A one. They have different cables but the IEC plug socket is only rated at 10A. Work that one out. Anyway, you might need a 13A one with a 10A fuse depending on your amp power and whether it has a 'soft start'. There's a grey area between 300w and 500w amps as to whether the manufacturer fits a soft start. Essentially you could have a 500w amp that randomly blows 5A fuses when you turn it on. [/quote] I'm pretty sure you can still get 7A plug fuses, if your really bothered. Personally 5 or 13 is good enough for me, even 6A cable will blow a 13A fuse if theres a short - unless its a really really long cable anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 [quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1428783611' post='2744559'] I'm pretty sure you can still get 7A plug fuses, if your really bothered. [/quote] You can, but they're not a popular value so you'll struggle to find them in the DIY type stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1428783983' post='2744565'] You can, but they're not a popular value so you'll struggle to find them in the DIY type stores. [/quote] You dont see 10A in places like that either, which is why I mentioned itt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1428790919' post='2744639'] You dont see 10A in places like that either, which is why I mentioned itt. [/quote] Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) [quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1428790919' post='2744639'] You dont see 10A in places like that either, which is why I mentioned it. [/quote] 7A and 10A fuses on eBay if anyone really wants them... Edited April 12, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1428823987' post='2744754'] Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief. [/quote][quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1428823987' post='2744754'] Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief. [/quote] Thanks for that, just been reading about them. http://www.russandrews.com/product-Russ-Andrews-13A-SuperFuse-1016.htm Cant believe I've been missing out on the benefits of high performance fuses for so long. Cant see a kitemark on them and they dont match the colour codes I'm used to though. Guess I'll just have to put up with the multipack ones from poundland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1428823987' post='2744754'] Thankfully Russ Andrews make a 10 amp 'Superfuse'. That's a relief. [/quote] Thank the LORD! And such a bargain, too! I'll buy twelve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1428839163' post='2745019'] Thank the LORD! And such a bargain, too! I'll buy twelve! [/quote] £300 plus P&P...a bargain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomBass Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1428842093' post='2745059'] £300 plus P&P...a bargain! [/quote] Good grief. There's no way I could afford to blow that amount of money on those current prices Mind you, are they any good for metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 [quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1428842965' post='2745084'] There's no way I could afford to blow that amount of money on those current prices [/quote] I might - if my resistance was low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Oh..... time to go 'ohm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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