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#151 Delberthot

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 04:57 PM

Is the suction cup tape that sticks the transmitter to the bass designed so that the transmitter lives attached to the bass all of the time or can it come off at the end of the gig and go back on for the next one? Kind of looks like it goes on and off again as long as you keep it clean according to the manual.

Just thinking that it might wear out the jack socket if it's in there all of the time.
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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:10 PM

Just comes off, doesn't mark the bass at all. It does depend on the shape of the bass though if it actually makes enough contact with the body to work. doesn't on my Dingwall or jazz but worked beautifully on my friends Strand a PRS...
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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:34 PM

 Happy Jack, on 10 August 2015 - 07:31 AM, said:

Deliberately ran my transmitter dry at Saturday's gig. I'd had a single bar on the r/h side of the display for a couple of hours, and I wanted to know what happened when the batteries finally died.
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In truth, it wasn't much of a mystery that needed solving but I've had battery-powered units go dry in several different ways and I always like to know what happens. :rolleyes:
Thanks for clearing that one up, Jack. I can confirm that the design intent is to stop working when the batteries run out! ;)

More seriously, if you were playing at the time, you may not have seen the blinking light telling you it's getting critical. You've typically got 10-20 minutes once the light is blinking.

As you found, the first sign of exhausted batteries is the system disconnecting and reconnecting which gets progressively worse until it won't connect at all. I looked at designing a 'cleaner' run-run-run-stop behaviour but that would've taken some time off the battery life so I figured it wasn't a real benefit.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:45 PM

 Delberthot, on 10 August 2015 - 04:57 PM, said:

Is the suction cup tape that sticks the transmitter to the bass designed so that the transmitter lives attached to the bass all of the time or can it come off at the end of the gig and go back on for the next one? Kind of looks like it goes on and off again as long as you keep it clean according to the manual.

Just thinking that it might wear out the jack socket if it's in there all of the time.
As Iain says, you can take it off the guitar no problem.

I don't think you'd have any problems leaving it plugged in either. One customer has bought a second transmitter so that he can leave the transmitters plugged in to his two basses and just pick them up and turn them on.

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 07:21 PM

Thanks Chris - that's me just ordered one now. Looking forward to using it this weekend
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Posted 11 August 2015 - 07:32 PM

 Delberthot, on 11 August 2015 - 07:21 PM, said:

Thanks Chris - that's me just ordered one now. Looking forward to using it this weekend
Got it. :) It'll ship tomorrow and be with you on Thursday before 1pm.

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 12:46 PM

Gigged with mine last weekend, several bands playing throughout the day, no interference issues or battery problems, output still sounded like me, very happy bunny.
Plugged into a P there was nowhere for the grippy tape to stick to so it just hung down behind the tone knob. Even with me leaping about as per, it never felt like it was gonna disconnect.
When plugged into my Yams the grip tape hangs onto the edge of the bass, that will be more interesting if I start jigging around..we shall see.
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Posted 14 August 2015 - 09:30 AM

This is timely I've been considering the Smooth Hound. It looks to be very good value and I like the fact that it's home grown. Wonder why the name. You're not a sea angler by any chance, Chris?

Edited by Dan Dare, 14 August 2015 - 09:31 AM.


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Posted 14 August 2015 - 09:47 AM

There is a fish called a hound? Now my head hurts!
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Posted 14 August 2015 - 09:59 AM

Ha ha ha. Dan, yes. You got it in one.

The company is named after the mighty smooth hound shark. Hence the logo though real smooth hounds aren't really very frightening at all.

I caught and released a beauty off Yarmouth pier on the Isle of Wight in June 2013. Totally unexpected. Two weeks later, I made a snap decision and packed in my job to start my own company.

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:01 AM

 SmoothHoundChris, on 14 August 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

Two weeks later, I made a snap decision and packed in my job to start my own company.

Outstanding.

I never had the balls to do that. Things have turned out OK for me anyway, but you do find yourself wondering "what if I had ...".

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:39 AM

 Happy Jack, on 14 August 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

Outstanding.

I never had the balls to do that. Things have turned out OK for me anyway, but you do find yourself wondering "what if I had ...".

Good luck Chris.
Thanks Jack.

In case any anglers are interested, here's the original smooth hound and here's the only other catch of the day!
Neither my dad nor my brother had so much as a bite. :lol:

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 07:16 PM

 SmoothHoundChris, on 07 August 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

The Neutrik Rean NYS236 plus a short patch lead is the best solution. The end of that adapter fits beautifully and lets the transmitter jack close completely flush. If I could find an inline jack socket that fitted as well as that does then a made up patch cable might be viable but I've had no luck so far.

Would http://cpc.farnell.c...-line-mono.html fit the bill?
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Posted 15 August 2015 - 09:00 PM

 tauzero, on 15 August 2015 - 07:16 PM, said:

Thanks tauzero. That style of in-line socket works fine but the end is too wide to allow the jack to close fully. The end of the NYS236 is narrower allowing the jack to close fully. Hopefully, this picture shows the difference.

You may be wondering why I keep going on about the hinge closing fully. If the hinge can close completely, you can sit on, stand on or jump on your transmitter and it'll be fine. If the hinge can't close properly then the jack acts like a crow bar acting on the hinge so there's much more risk of damage in use.

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Posted 15 August 2015 - 11:28 PM

A picture is indeed worth a thousand words. If only there was an inline version of http://www.canford.c...LONGFRAME-JACKS (which there isn't, I thought I'd just clarify that I wasn't being sarcastic).
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 02:43 PM

Just call me Sherlock, Chris. Presume the deluxe model will be the Starry Smooth Hound. Home grown and made by an angler? That'll do for me Order just placed. Atb.

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 02:56 PM

Not long back from 2 gigs in Aberdeen this weekend. I took the wireless still in it's box and not having had the chance to try it out at home. Got to the first gig, plugged it in, attached the tape to the transmitter and that was really it.

Really simple to use and having no cable mean that I can hear the bass clearer now. In fact my drummer said it was the best that the bass had sounded.

I have only one monor concern in that when removing the transmitter from the body, which I had attached using the tape, it's so strong that I'm worried that I'm going to break the tabs that hold the battery door onto the unit when I pull it off. I had to try to hold the battery door as I removed the transmitter from the bass. Any tips on how to remove it without risking damaging the battery compartment tabs?

Other than that I played two full wedding gigs and the battery level is still showing 3 bars left so I'm very impressed. The Line6 G30 that I used to have would've been close to or on it's next set of batteries already.
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 03:46 PM

 Dan Dare, on 16 August 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

Just call me Sherlock, Chris. Presume the deluxe model will be the Starry Smooth Hound. Home grown and made by an angler? That'll do for me Order just placed. Atb.
Got it, Dan. Thanks very much. It'll ship tomorrow.

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 04:36 PM

 Delberthot, on 16 August 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

Not long back from 2 gigs in Aberdeen this weekend. I took the wireless still in it's box and not having had the chance to try it out at home. Got to the first gig, plugged it in, attached the tape to the transmitter and that was really it.

Really simple to use and having no cable mean that I can hear the bass clearer now. In fact my drummer said it was the best that the bass had sounded.
Really glad you like it Delberthot. I prefer the sound of my Stratocaster and Les Paul through the wireless. It's the same result you'd get from fitting a pre-amp. Removing the cable loading on the pick-ups makes the guitar sound brighter and more detailed.

 Delberthot, on 16 August 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

I have only one minor concern in that when removing the transmitter from the body, which I had attached using the tape, it's so strong that I'm worried that I'm going to break the tabs that hold the battery door onto the unit when I pull it off. I had to try to hold the battery door as I removed the transmitter from the bass. Any tips on how to remove it without risking damaging the battery compartment tabs?
Only really to grip the unit so you're holding the battery door as much as you can but it sounds like you're already doing that. Don't worry though, the battery door is made from a very tough plastic (Delrin) that will bend a long way before it breaks. The worst that's likely to happen is that the battery door stays attached to the guitar! Of course, if you did have a problem (which you won't) we'd send you a replacement door.

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 03:35 PM

Smooth Hound are at the Manchester Guitar Show this Sunday. Come along if you'd like to try out the Classic wireless system and take advantage of our special show price of £129.

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 11:08 PM

I love the fact this looks so small. But does Line 6 wireless blow it out the water?

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 05:55 AM

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I love the fact this looks so small. But does Line 6 wireless blow it out the water?
Having used both, I'd say it is the other way round. Besides the size, the range of the smoothhound is better, the battery life is several times longer and the construction is better.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 06:42 AM

One of my guitarists was so impressed with mine, he's bought his own....Do I get a finders fee Chris?

Admittedly I have to talk him through the connection process over the phone as he didn't know where to put it 'cos of his pedal board. He saw mine velcro'd to my amp and tried to copy :rolleyes:
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 07:06 PM

Still a great lil piece of kit!

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 07:13 PM

yup yup and YUP!
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:47 PM

This looks like an awesome bit of kit!! Sorry for a dumb question. I had t realised there was such a long, detailed trail here!! :)

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 09:53 PM

Been using mine for a couple of months - practices with both bands and a few gigs including open air - it's been utterly faultless. Battery life even on rechargeable batteries is great too!
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Posted 07 October 2015 - 06:13 AM

Finally found an issue!

I put the receiver on my Pedaltrain Nano and powered everything with a Diageo daisy chain thingy. Used the polarity reversal cable for the first time.

As soon as I stomped on the fuzz pedal I got an irritating wow-wow-wow underneath the bass tone. Swopped the fuzz pedal for another and got exactly the same problem.

After five minutes of frustrated pluggery, it occurred to me that I had the receiver (with polarity reverser) as the first unit in the Diageo daisy chain, i.e. the other pedals received their power after it had passed the Smoothound.

Swopped the power around so that the receiver became the last in line and the problem went away.
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Posted 07 October 2015 - 01:11 PM

A power supply with isolated outputs would not show this problem. Its because you are reversing polarity on a daisy chain and I think you are running into ground problems.
I don't know if it's really fair to call it a problem of the product (unless you consider the choice of polarity with regards to other fx pedals, flawed...?)

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 01:18 PM

View PostEBS_freak, on 07 October 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

I don't know if it's really fair to call it a problem of the product ...

Agreed.

So I didn't.

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