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#181 Happy Jack

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 01:18 PM

View PostHappy Jack, on 07 October 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:

Agreed.

So I didn't.

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Oops ... except accidentally at the end. :lol:

I meant to call it an issue.
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Posted 07 October 2015 - 03:08 PM

View PostHappy Jack, on 07 October 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:

Oops ... except accidentally at the end. :lol:

I meant to call it an issue.

Ha ha. The politest non-complaint ever.

EBS is right, the noise is caused by a ground loop between the receiver and effect pedal but it's not specifically down to the choice of centre-positive supply.
Daisy chain supply shared between digital and analogue pedals is a common cause of noise. Here's a video on the subject.

Other well known wireless manufacturers say that you can only use the supplied adapter or an isolated supply like those from Voodoo Labs. In hindsight, I was a little rash when I said the receiver doesn't need isolated power because of the potential for this effect.

Different rigs may vary but the safest ways to avoid ground loop noise like this is to use the supplied adapter or an isolated power supply. BTW I would recommend reading reviews before investing in one of the low cost 'isolated' supplies because I understand that some are more isolated than others.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 03:14 PM

Understood, but just to emphasise the point that all I had to do was to plug the pedals in using reverse order.

Putting the receiver & polarity inverter after the other pedals completed cured the ... erm ... issue.

Now all I need to do is find a fuzz pedal that doesn't wreck the bottom end of my tone. :rolleyes:
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Posted 07 October 2015 - 04:25 PM

View PostHappy Jack, on 07 October 2015 - 03:14 PM, said:

Understood, but just to emphasise the point that all I had to do was to plug the pedals in using reverse order.

Putting the receiver & polarity inverter after the other pedals completed cured the ... erm ... issue.

That's good to hear. It's possible that that is a real fix but a word of caution. The loudness of ground loop noise depends on the resistance in the connections. That resistance can change when you unplug things and plug them in again. I don't know that happened in this case but it's possible.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 05:02 PM

Well after ordering a Smooth Hound I received it within 24 hours. I immediately noticed the quality of the build. It's strong and rugged which is what you need in a gigging band. Plugging it in it worked straight off. I didn't notice any time delay for tethering with it. If there was a little more treble in the tone I didn't notice it, although Alembic's are pretty zingy to be honest. Will try my ACG's tomorrow, but don't expect to notice anything there either. The receiver is really quite tiny and light, the guitar transmitter also small and has the feel of a quality item. All in all I am very very happy with it and can recommend it to the members. Previously I had used an Ashdown Freebass but stopped using it as I didn't like the tone modelling aspect, and the batteries had a pretty short life. I don't think anyone will be disappointed with this, and I am itching to use it in anger on stage. Chris (rednose200)

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 10:45 AM

We're at the Cheshire Guitar Show in Crewe tomorrow. Come and say hello if you're in the area and try out the Classic wireless for yourself!

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 10:58 AM

In fact, if the signal's good enough you could come along to Nantwich instead ...
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Posted 17 October 2015 - 11:08 AM

Nantwich is five miles from Gresty Road so might be a touch on the optimistic side ;)

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 12:55 PM

View PostSmoothHoundChris, on 07 October 2015 - 03:08 PM, said:

EBS is right, the noise is caused by a ground loop between the receiver and effect pedal but it's not specifically down to the choice of centre-positive supply.
Daisy chain supply shared between digital and analogue pedals is a common cause of noise. Here's a video on the subject.


I got a real problem adding a fisher FX (which is digital) to my other effects which included a B3 (also digital). Taking either out of the loop worked as did running either of them on batteries. Got an isolated power supply here (£20) - problem gone.
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Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:38 PM

pulled the trigger and ordered.
I have a gig Saturday so looking forward to breaking it in.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:41 PM

View Postfunkydamo, on 19 October 2015 - 08:38 PM, said:

pulled the trigger and ordered.
I have a gig Saturday so looking forward to breaking it in.
Got it funkydamo. It'll ship first thing tomorrow. :)

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:30 PM

thanks mate, much appreciated.
I'm surprisingly organised - also ordered a fxf adaptor as recommended off amazon & ordered a str-angled 70cm long patch lead. bring on the weekend!

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 12:56 PM

Just ordered one.... hope it does what it says on the tin, but going by this thread I should be fine.
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Posted 20 October 2015 - 03:34 PM

View PostHazBeen, on 20 October 2015 - 12:56 PM, said:

Just ordered one.... hope it does what it says on the tin, but going by this thread I should be fine.

Thanks HazBeen! A set is on its way to the Netherlands right now.

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Posted 25 October 2015 - 12:47 PM

Just ordered one through Amazon along with the Neutrik adapter. I have never tried wireless before so looking forward to this.
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Posted 25 October 2015 - 04:37 PM

I want to (quick release) mount mine in my 4u rack case, I just haven't decided how yet! I mean, that's a lot of pretty lights to hide, right?*






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Posted 25 October 2015 - 09:16 PM

Has anyone tried the Smooth Hound against the Sony system? They are the 2 I'm considering but most of the chat seems to be a comparison with the Line6.

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 10:30 PM

Mine has just arrived. Sadly I will not get a chance to play with it until Sunday.

It is also missing the Microsuction tape, any ideas as to a good replacement?
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Posted 27 October 2015 - 10:33 PM

View PostBobthedog, on 27 October 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

Mine has just arrived. Sadly I will not get a chance to play with it until Sunday.

It is also missing the Microsuction tape, any ideas as to a good replacement?

Hi Bobthedog,
Very sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happened. There'll be some Microsuction tape in the post tomorrow.
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Posted 27 October 2015 - 11:32 PM

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Hi Bobthedog,
Very sorry to hear that. Not sure how that happened. There'll be some Microsuction tape in the post tomorrow.
Regards
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Chris, thank you! That is customer service. Yup, there was just the sellotape (gluing the pages together) but not a huge issue.
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Posted 28 October 2015 - 09:35 AM

Very happy with my SmoothHound unit. I've done probably 25 gigs with it now in all sorts of venues and it's absolutely great. Not had a single "issue" at all (touch wood) and I feel more confident in using it than any other wireless I've owned.

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Posted 30 October 2015 - 12:17 AM

Well, what to say. Chris promised me some replacement Microsuction tape and it was there for me at home today. That is truly great service, thank you. This company deserves to grow.

I managed 5 minutes with the unit tonight, and it did not disappoint. Full play at the weekend but so far all very impressive. Big thumbs up for both Chris and the kit.
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Posted 05 November 2015 - 04:08 PM

Ordered mine Wednesday, arrived special delivery today. Excellent service I say.

Plenty of advice and help from Chris. Even replied to emails at 10pm. :i-m_so_happy:

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 09:39 PM

View Postgelfin, on 05 November 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

Plenty of advice and help from Chris. Even replied to emails at 10pm. :i-m_so_happy:
No problem, gelfin, it's a pleasure.

Thanks to Bobthedog and mrtcat for your kind words (I'll quote you on that if it's OK!).

Big thanks to Dood for putting me in touch with Guitar Interactive magazine who just published my first review. Sorry, they never tried it with bass but you guys know it works with bass already!

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 10:26 PM

View PostSmoothHoundChris, on 05 November 2015 - 09:39 PM, said:


Big thanks to Dood for putting me in touch with Guitar Interactive magazine who just published my first review. Sorry, they never tried it with bass but you guys know it works with bass already!

Fantastic! So good to see in print too! The magazine reaches all around the world and the subscription figures are massive alone. It's no problem, I really liked (still do) the product and put it forward as a suggestion for review.

Oh and of course, it scored very highly in the review too! Congrats!

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Posted 09 November 2015 - 05:17 PM

I think I've got some magic rechargeable batteries in mine right now - current pair have managed ~10 hours of practise since putting them in freshly charged and still showing 2 bars left. No paranoia of running out mid-gig if they go in fully charged!
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Posted 09 November 2015 - 10:45 PM

Tried out for real on Sunday. Main concern was that there are six radio mics and ond other Sennheiser wireless guitar.

Instant lock and no interference problems. No dangly bits of cable to strap or pocket. I am well happy with it. Outperforms the Sennheiser my
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Posted 09 November 2015 - 10:53 PM

Still love mine! Great bit of kit for not a lot of money.
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Posted 03 January 2016 - 10:29 PM

Possibly a daft question and I'm doing something wrong - I'm curious how well everyone is finding the transmitter sticks to the guitar (or more likely bass)?

I think it's a great unit - sounds perfect, batteries last ages - it works a treat and I'm very impressed, but mine doesn't seem to stay in place. I've tried it on several guitars (PRS, strat, les paul). Chris very kindly sent me a couple of more sticky pads but which was very generous and impressive customer care, but no difference. Is there a trick to making them more sticky that anyone has found?
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Posted 03 January 2016 - 11:02 PM

Just ordered mine. Looking forward to getting it.
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