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Hobbayne
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After years of trampling on my leads and ripping my jack sockets out, I am thinking of going the wireless route.
Are there good and bad systems out there? I dont want anything cheap and nasty that picks up Radio 2 and local mini cabs.

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I'm on my third (and hopefully final) attempt at wireless at the moment, and I'm delighted with it: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/264519-smooth-hound-innovations-digital-wireless-guitar-system/

Put in a pair of new batteries before EVERY gig (well, why wouldn't you?) and - as Chris says - always lay out a cable for emergencies.

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[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1441279340' post='2857451']
I'm on my third (and hopefully final) attempt at wireless at the moment, and I'm delighted with it: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/264519-smooth-hound-innovations-digital-wireless-guitar-system/"]http://basschat.co.u...-guitar-system/[/url]
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Great to hear you're still a Happy Jack :)

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1441279340' post='2857451']
Put in a pair of new batteries before EVERY gig (well, why wouldn't you?) and - as Chris says - always lay out a cable for emergencies.
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Says the man who [i]deliberately[/i] lets his batteries run out [i]during[/i] a gig? ;)

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1441279125' post='2857444']
All I can say is always have a good supply of batteries and a lead laid out as a backup.
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With systems like the Smooth Hound Classic that have a reliable battery level readout then you should have a backup set of batteries to hand but there's no need to replace them for each gig. Performance is the [i]same[/i] from fresh batteries to almost dead 15 hours later.

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After looking at a thread on here I got one of these. http://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-amp-instrument-wireless/pid16092/cid761/line-6-relay-g30-digital-wireless-guitar-system.asp the Line 6 G30. In the end the only question ws whether to get the G50.

As everyone says the battery cover is a bit naff and the clip could be more secure, a velcro cable tie would be better but it's been a hundred percent reiable, never had a dropout and is better made than I expected at the price. I use some 2200mAh rechargeables and carry a spare set plus a backup set of Alkaline batteries, The rechargeables last the whole set and then go on and do another 5 hours at home but I make sure they are topped up for every gig (I must put them on for tomorrow in a minute)

The sound is cleaner than using even a short high quality lead and the freedom is great, I've even wandered out of the pub and onto the beach at a gig in Teignmouth, a bit eccentric but you've got to try it once :)

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Pretty much any of the reputable digital systems should do the job.

Line 6, Smooth Hound, Sony, and StageClix all have had good reviews here.

In the end it all comes down to how robust you need the transmitter to be and where you are going to put the receiver (in a rack on your pedal board etc.) which one is the most suitable for you.

I have the Sony system and apart from a single occurrence of the transmitter mysteriously changing channels it has been rock solid.

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Line 6 g30 with one of these. Done. [url="http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/effects-recording-c6/recording-microphones-c415/wireless-systems-c417/levys-leathers-levys-leathers-mm4-wireless-transmitter-holder-p9398"]http://www.stringsdi...er-holder-p9398[/url]

(I would like to try a Smooth Hound System at some point though....)

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Apart from the band, I also hire kit out mainly to theatres, so I have a fair bit of different kit. Sennheiser G1,2 and 3, a few bits of AKG, and Line 6 2.4GHz kit. I've also had some cheaper kit, which rarely performed well on a couple of points, while on it's own, wasn't really too bad. The Line 6 and Sennheiser kit is quite happy (as is Shure that I occasionally hire in to meet rider requirements) to operate multiple channels. It's been designed to operate as a multi-channel system. The cheaper ones don't have the filtering and technical tighter specs to not get 'annoyed' by others, and nowadays, in our band, we have two radio guitars, and now four IEM systems going the other way. I use Sennheiser IEMs, and Line 6 for the guitars, and although we have Line 6 handhelds we could use - we stay with wires for what we do.

They all work together perfectly and we very rarely have any issues - until somebody pops up with something different and it doesn't integrate properly.

Looking back over maybe 5 years, we've lost a couple of battery door flaps on the Sennheiser packs, split two tubes on the Line 6 handheld from over tightening. Apart from that, the only other things that have broken are one handheld that somebody rolled a flight case over!

I bought a couple of counterfeit Sennheisers from China. In fact, they sound really nice, and perform quite well. They do suffer from intermod problems - using the same trouble free channels as the proper Sennheisers they are not clean - and background warbles pop up. I'd be happy using them on their own, but they're a bit less well made than I'd like. Screws come loose, tight joints become wobbly, and the sound is not quite the same.

When I buy more, it will be more G3 or Line 6. The Chinese have stopped making the dodgy copies in the main now we've changed bands. The factory who made them now sell the same stuff buy with their own brands. No idea what they're like, but they're sending me a twin channel ch 38 IEM system to play with. Might be good, might be bad, but it might be worth it?

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I, too, am a wireless n00b, but I have recently taken delivery of a Line 6 G30 Relay after reading one of the threads on BC. So far, so good. Sound-checking is a lot less random and I no longer spend half the gig booting leads out of the way. Result!

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I have the Shure GLX-D16 Beta Digital Wireless System. IMO it is perfect. Crystal clear sound, transmitter can be used as a tuner and it has a Lithium Ion battery that has about 16 hours of charge and can be charged up from mains or USB, meaning I can top up the charge in the car on my way to a gig.

It isn't cheap at £300+ but I am really pleased with it.

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i picked up one of these of ebay for £50

http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Intellitouch_freedom_one.html

and its been great, had to mod the jack transmiter a bit ( i say "mod" i put velcro on it) as it would move around and slap against the bass body during over excited on stage moments. i only use it off and on depending on stage sound and the built in tuner is a nice touch but it hasn't let me down.

before that i had a £40 samson kit for around 3 years that only broke when i erm.... trood on it... :blush:

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[quote name='SmoothHoundChris' timestamp='1441314732' post='2857941']
Great to hear you're still a Happy Jack :)


Says the man who [i]deliberately[/i] lets his batteries run out [i]during[/i] a gig? ;)


With systems like the Smooth Hound Classic that have a reliable battery level readout then you should have a backup set of batteries to hand but there's no need to replace them for each gig. Performance is the [i]same[/i] from fresh batteries to almost dead 15 hours later.
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Oh man! it's just a brilliant piece of kit! Still happy with mine too. I mean, wireless for beginners, this has got to be near the top of the list, not because it is in anyway sub-standard or 'budget minded', but because it's so damn easy to use.

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im pondering a similar purchase at the moment. i was heading towards the line6 but have been reading the reviews of the smooth hound and seen that the german shop are doing the Sony for £130 and am now thoroughly confused. All seem to get good reviews.

on top of that i got the hard sell on the new sure system from my local pmt (most unlike them) trying to convince me the rechargable battery and the fact they own some bandwidth is worth the extra £200.

Too much choice!

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I have been looking at the wireless kits recently and have just plumped for the Sony DWZB30GB from Thomman for £131 + shipping. I looked at the Line 6 G30 but was put off by the reviews of a flimsy battery door. I looked at the Smooth Hound but it was just a little more than I wanted to spend. Can't wait for it to turn up and try it out B)

Jas

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[quote name='sbrag' timestamp='1445680717' post='2893313']
Be interested to hear your thoughts as I'm leaning towards the Sony
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I am very pleased with it, all the reviews are spot on. It is very easy to set up and use. The transmitter is very well made and feels like it could withstand a lot of abuse. I have only tried it out at a rehearsal so far, there is no change in my sound and it's just the same as having a cable connected.... exept it isn't!!! Can't wait to gig it this weekend, looking forward to not tripping over my cable like I normally do!

Jas

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[quote name='sbrag' timestamp='1446628665' post='2900859']
Sounds good hope it did well at the gig. Is it just battery or did it come with a power supply for the receiver?

Cheers
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The receiver does come with it's own 12V wall-wart PSU. However if you buy it from Thomann it will have a European plug on it and a UK adaptor, neither of which IME are suitable for the rigours of gigging. Luckily you can also power if from a standard centre negative, 9V, pedal PSU which is what I do.

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