0175westwood29 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Morning guys doing the normal search on the web to see what pedals are around and have always liked the Red Witch stuff, and came across there second bass specific pedal the "Zeus" as with there factotum drive pedal there an analogue octave with a mix control and then theres the silicone fuzz based on there Fuzz god 2 pedal. it sounds to me anyway seriously good! if you dnt like aggressive fuzz then this probs isnt for you! but as a big lover of the mxr submachine this is something id love to have a go on! http://www.redwitchpedals.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=86 Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfFrink Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Oy vey. The GAS... The octave sound sounds great in the demos, but I'm not sure I totally like the fuzz part (totally personal thing of course). I also really dislike internal trimpots, because my OCD won't let me pass the chance to use them and I'll end up spending the rest of my life taking this apart and back together just to try different settings. Also, it's a bit big. Pity they don't do just the octave in a dedicated pedal. I might have gone for this if it sounded good in a few more demos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naetharu Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Now that pedal sounds great. I've been after a nice analog octave pedal for a while now. Add that fuzz in and I think I just found the number one item on this years Xmas list - time to start droping some heavy-handed hints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 [quote name='Naetharu' timestamp='1443320608' post='2873843'] Now that pedal sounds great. I've been after a nice analog octave pedal for a while now. Add that fuzz in and I think I just found the number one item on this years Xmas list - time to start droping some heavy-handed hints [/quote] I think I'm def gonna have to try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naetharu Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Anyone tried one of these yet? I just put in my order from Thomman and will try and post a video / sound samples up here once it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 i think im gonna probs order one early next year andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naetharu Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Well I bounced off that one. The pedal arrived yesterday afternoon. A very nice looking unit with some great packaging and a little instruction note written in the same manner as those awful bits you get on the side of Innocent Smoothie cartons. However, upon plugging in I was at best underwhelmed. The sub-octave was not too bad. It seemed to have a bit of trouble tracking notes that were held for any length of time, oscillating a little between notes giving a slightly de-tuned sound. Nothing terrible but given all the guff about it being a fantastic analog unit I was hoping for something a little tighter. The fuzz was just depressing. Now I am honestly not sure if the unit I got was defective it was that bad. First, it was more fizz than fuzz. I was in the studio live-room with my band last night doing a bit of prep for a gig, and so I had the chance to use a nice Ampeg SVT-CL into an SVT-810 cab. Even through that monster it just sounded bad. Without the high-gain switch on it was fizzy and thin with a bit of crackle. Once the high-gain switch was engaged it was just so messy that notes were lost. It seemed almost impossible to get it to a happy balance between the two. Also, the sputter control was very odd. The idea was that by turning it counter-clockwise you get a kind of gated effect giving the bass a nice staccato sound. All it seemed to do was crackle lots and cut the fuzz out completely if moved to the wrong point. I could not get a proper 'sputter' out of it at all. As I say, I may have had a defective unit (which in itself is pretty disappointing given that it is supposed to be a premium pedal and so one would expect better QC) but if not then it was a major let-down for me. Having done a bit more research this morning I have found quite a few anecdotal accounts of Red Witch units with defective sputter controls and/or sputter controls that wear out quickly* and end just killing the sound rather than properly gating the fuzz. I have no way to verify these of course, they're just comments left by users on Ultimate Guitar and other such sites. However, given my experience I don't find it hard to believe. Needless to say it went right back in its little box and a return has been raised with Thomann. If anyone else grabs one of these I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts. Alas, the quest for awesome fuzz continues. *Just worth adding that these accounts where about other models such as the Fuzz God rather than the Zeus, but I assume that the difference comes down to a variation on a theme and thus they are relevant all the same. Edited November 19, 2015 by Naetharu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 Mmmm ive managed to speak to the guys at red witch and im getting one in the next few weeks so ill let you know how i get on man! and im gonna do a review, so you can compare your experience andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naetharu Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1447934152' post='2911550'] Mmmm ive managed to speak to the guys at red witch and im getting one in the next few weeks so ill let you know how i get on man! and im gonna do a review, so you can compare your experience andy [/quote] Cheers, that would be very interesting. Certainly keen to know if my unit is defective or if it just sounds a bit pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 [quote name='Naetharu' timestamp='1447935192' post='2911556'] Cheers, that would be very interesting. Certainly keen to know if my unit is defective or if it just sounds a bit pants. [/quote] finally got it today, i think you must have a busted unit mate, bit fat very aggressive fuzz, i think thats why you have the high end roll of to take of the harsh top if you dnt want it, i however do! from playing it shortly mind im loving it! and the octave down is lovely! and my sputter control works well so i think you got a duffer. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1449075804' post='2920598'] finally got it today, i think you must have a busted unit mate, bit fat very aggressive fuzz, i think thats why you have the high end roll of to take of the harsh top if you dnt want it, i however do! from playing it shortly mind im loving it! and the octave down is lovely! and my sputter control works well so i think you got a duffer. Andy [/quote] You going to do a video Andy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 [quote name='sk8' timestamp='1449086529' post='2920721'] You going to do a video Andy? [/quote] indeed will be doing one hopefully early next week Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You've just missed me giving one away: http://www.iguitarmag.com/redwitch-zeus-comp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 And the Red Witch Factotum too for that matter! Both very cool pedals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1449091995' post='2920787'] indeed will be doing one hopefully early next week Andy [/quote] Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Video is uploading now. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 link to my video demo here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC6TzdSfsfQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 [quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1449646432' post='2925435'] link to my video demo here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC6TzdSfsfQ [/quote] Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Played it in a band setting last week (late update as ive been in iceland) big doomy really heavy fuzz! cuts really well for me, even with the blend almost all fuzz. andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naetharu Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Cheers for the update Andy, Mine sounded [b]nothing [/b]like your demo there. It just either did massive fizz or no gain at all and the sputter knob didn't work. The fizz was not just bass sound being a bit too treble focused; it was a high pitch nasty noise that made it sound like a dying trannie amp. After listening to your video I would be tempted to try one again. Edited December 24, 2015 by Naetharu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 [quote name='Naetharu' timestamp='1450996906' post='2937807'] Cheers for the update Andy, Mine sounded [b]nothing [/b]like your demo there. It just either did massive fizz or no gain at all and the sputter knob didn't work. The fizz was not just bass sound being a bit too treble focused; it was a high pitch nasty noise that made it sound like a dying trannie amp. After listening to your video I would be tempted to try one again. [/quote] Well worth it mate! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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