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#1 Naetharu

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 06:43 PM

Hi folks,

I'm after a bit of advice. My band-mate (rhythm guitarist and primary song-writer) is in need of a new guitar amp. He's currently rocking a Carlsbro Stingray from the 1970s and its on its last legs. He's about the lest tech savvy fellow I have ever met and knows nothing about amps or guitars aisde from how to play them. As such, he's asked me to help him out finding something suitable for band-practice and gigs. And I in turn and coming to you folks!

The band is pretty heavy music wise; I guess a mixture of Mastodon and Porcupine-Tree would be about as good a description as I could offer. With that in mind does anyone have a suggestion or even just some advice about where to start looking, what size amps to consider etc.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 10:11 PM

First of all - what's his budget?

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 10:55 PM

View PostRhysP, on 08 December 2015 - 10:11 PM, said:

First of all - what's his budget?

Under £500 for the head - cheaper is better.
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Posted 08 December 2015 - 11:31 PM

Peavey 5150!

Any 2x12 cab!

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 11:44 PM

View PostTruckstop, on 08 December 2015 - 11:31 PM, said:

Peavey 5150!

Any 2x12 cab!

Just had a search and cannot find anything on those - seems Peavy don't make them any more? They do the 6505 mini-head that looks interesting however. Has anyone tried one of these?
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Posted 09 December 2015 - 12:38 AM

Second hand!

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 09:49 AM

If you're wanting to go for heavier sounds it might be worth looking at Blackstar amps.

Edited by RhysP, 09 December 2015 - 09:49 AM.


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Posted 09 December 2015 - 10:40 AM

Hmmm, I suppose 5150 might be a bit to hard to come across but honestly, if you find one, you won't need another amp!

If your friend is happy with a combo, Laney VC-30's can push some serious noise with a great overdriven tone and the bonus is that they have killer clean tone too.

New, they're about 500-550. Can pick up second hand models for around 250-300. Grab an extension cab and you'll be able to play anywhere! Mikael Akerfeldt uses VC-30's in the studio and he know his way around great tone.

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 11:53 AM

View PostNaetharu, on 08 December 2015 - 11:44 PM, said:

Just had a search and cannot find anything on those - seems Peavy don't make them any more? They do the 6505 mini-head that looks interesting however. Has anyone tried one of these?

Van Halen holds the 5150 trademark and Peavey re-badged the amp as a 6505 when the licencing deal ended in the mid 2000s. The 6505 or 6505+ can easily be picked up for around £500 second hand. I think the 5150 badged Peavey amps hold a bit more value but are still fairly common. There's also a 6534+ (which I own and love) same amp but runs on EL34 tubes, not a common variant of the amp though. All will be solidly built and versatile enough to cover most playing styles including high gain metal.

I'd love to try the 6505 Mini Head but they don't seem too common in the UK, I'd also have reservations about how loud it can be played cleanly (20 watts distorted will still be ridiculously loud).

Blackstar would be the other recommendation, can easily be picked up S/H, plenty of good reviews. Definitely go with a 2x12 cab and not a 4x12.
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Posted 09 December 2015 - 12:49 PM

View PostBradwell, on 09 December 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

Van Halen holds the 5150 trademark and Peavey re-badged the amp as a 6505 when the licencing deal ended in the mid 2000s. The 6505 or 6505+ can easily be picked up for around £500 second hand. I think the 5150 badged Peavey amps hold a bit more value but are still fairly common. There's also a 6534+ (which I own and love) same amp but runs on EL34 tubes, not a common variant of the amp though. All will be solidly built and versatile enough to cover most playing styles including high gain metal.

I'd love to try the 6505 Mini Head but they don't seem too common in the UK, I'd also have reservations about how loud it can be played cleanly (20 watts distorted will still be ridiculously loud).

Blackstar would be the other recommendation, can easily be picked up S/H, plenty of good reviews. Definitely go with a 2x12 cab and not a 4x12.

Thank you, that's really helped. I'm going to try and get my buddy to come with me to a couple of stores sometime next week and see what we can try out - the Peavy stuff is certainly going to be something we have a good look at. The Blackstar sounds interesting too. I actually had an HT1R practice amp and found it to be an amazingly well built and fantastic sounding little thing.

Volume wise I would think around the 20/30 watt mark should be fine as we're always going to be going into a PA even at practice, so volume from the amp itself is less of an issue than just good and flexible tone.
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Posted 09 December 2015 - 01:01 PM

If massive power's not necessary then the Vox Valvetronix combos are awesome and really good value! Try one out if you can. Remarkably flexible.

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Posted 18 December 2015 - 07:55 PM

Marshall or Blackstar might be the place to start.
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Posted 19 March 2016 - 05:32 PM

I suppose budget is a big thing here.
Personally I'd go second hand.

Peavey 5150 / 6505
Laney Ironheart
Peavey xxx
Marshall mode 4
Bugera make clones of some Hi gain amps
Although I can't speak about the build quality as I've not tried one.
Good luck in your search.


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Posted 20 March 2016 - 01:33 PM

View PostBradwell, on 09 December 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

I'd love to try the 6505 Mini Head but they don't seem too common in the UK, I'd also have reservations about how loud it can be played cleanly (20 watts distorted will still be ridiculously loud).

I assume they're the same as the micro heads in which case Rich Tone in Sheffield have 2 in stock if you want a trip across the Pennines.

http://www.richtonem..._head_230gb.asp

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Posted 10 May 2016 - 08:32 AM

Jet City offer a lot of bang for your bucks. Based on Soldano amps I believe. Guitarist in my band had a 20 watt and a fifty watt head and both sounded stonking.
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Posted 10 May 2016 - 01:35 PM

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