deksawyer Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 [quote name='Westenra' timestamp='1476530556' post='3154989'] Talking about that Patrick video? I've wondered too why it's so flappy! Lovely colour jazz too. [/quote] I think it's a trick of the eye due to camera shutter speed, in the same way wheels spinning on tv look like they spin backwards at a certain speed.... D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Rehearsal finished. Very pleased with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) I was thinking here. Clearly there's been a lot of thought gone into the design of these heads but there's one thing that always seems to be overlooked; put a freaking tuner in it somehow! I know the case is (quite probably) filled with all manner of amplifier and pre-stage goodiness, but how dreamy would it be to just have an [i]always on[/i] tuner on the top of it? Just a little window say 4cm x 8cm. It's not really meant to be racked, so howabout squeezing in an LCD display similar to the top half of a Boss TU3? Then it truly becomes a one box gigging unit. Call it the 900T and take my money, dammit. Christ, it would be a dream to just leave the house with just bass, couple of cables, the head and cabinet. Edited October 15, 2016 by NancyJohnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 [quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1476542166' post='3155093'] I was thinking here. Clearly there's been a lot of thought gone into the design of these heads but there's one thing that always seems to be overlooked; put a freaking tuner in it somehow! I know the case is (quite probably) filled with all manner of amplifier and pre-stage goodiness, but how dreamy would it be to just have an [i]always on[/i] tuner on the top of it? Just a little window say 4cm x 8cm. It's not really meant to be racked, so howabout squeezing in an LCD display similar to the top half of a Boss TU3? Then it truly becomes a one box gigging unit. Call it the 900T and take my money, dammit. Christ, it would be a dream to just leave the house with just bass, couple of cables, the head and cabinet. [/quote] I've always wondered why more amps don't have tuners built in. I'm pretty sure a good quality built in tuner would not cost much internal or external real estate. And tuner tech is pretty advanced and isn't expensive anymore. I think many companies don't bother as it adds costs and they assume people already have a dedicated tuner. It would be nice to see on higher end amps a decent built in tuner. If we are sold on smaller and lighter amps being more convienent then surely they could market the fact its even more convienent due to the in built tuner, one less thing to carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancowell25 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I absolutely agree........ however Having trawled through several Darkglass threads the design ethic seems to be to produce a product that is serviceable and upgradeable. something that is lacking in a lot of Class D amplification. From a business point of view unfortunately a tuner is another component to go wrong that has to be addressed under warranty so I would imagine as a first run product it would be a calculable risk to incorporate third party tech. This is probably for another thread but the insistence on being in tune does not shift musical gear..... we all work with guitarists don't we........ but in a perfect world it would be amazing to have a quality comp and tuner built into the product ( and wireless, filter, reverb,chorus and octave) I've ordered one.....its the most excited i've been about bass related product in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjelkeman Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Doug has said (and I am paraphrasing) that he wants to make gear nobody else makes. He even cancelled a pedal that was too my like other pedals on the market. Even though they where pretty far along with the design. Making an amp with a tuner really doesn't seem like him, to me. Lots of companies make tuners. Several make amps with tuners. I doubt Darkglass ever will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBerriff Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) If I want minimalist I take a Korg Pitchjack, plugged into the amp Tuner Out socket. That is not going to work with the 900. For gigs a stomp box tuner is worth the extra complexity imho so it is not a problem. Any design is a set of compromises as Doug has made clear. Edited October 16, 2016 by DBerriff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1476526317' post='3154957'] I`ve never seen an E string flap so much, it was flappier than a flappy thing. [/quote] Its the "helicopter on film" effect, you know, where the blades appear to be moving in slow motion. This is due to the phase effect of the the video framerate and the frequency of thing you see moving. You do have to use a video camera with a very fast aperture though otherwise it just looks blurred, I'm guessing this was done deliberately to get that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Darkglass are releasing cases in a month or so, worth hanging on for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I wouldn't have bought one if it had a tuner built in. Now a cup holder would be a different matter. Tuning needs are well taken care of. [url="https://flic.kr/p/N7Qr2K"][/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Personally I think the RC4 footswitch from TC Helicon for their RH/Blacksmith/Stacatto heads is a work of genius... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 It turns out the gas was too much and I am weak. Ordered, fingers crossed it'll be here in time for my next gig on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Not looking good good. They were showing as due into Andertons today but they just updated the item page, next expected delivery date Nov 30th :^( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 See if Bass Direct have one and ask them to price match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 That might be worth looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancowell25 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I've had the same message Its quite a jump from expected today to the end of next month I've contacted them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I did mention earlier in this thread it was very ambitious of Andertons to have such an early delivery date as Doug had already said to me they were completely backlogged until the end of November, so that date certainly makes sense. BD haven't had their first stock yet AFAIK, so Id try them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancowell25 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Yes.... ambitious is one word for it I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Music produktiv have stock but the price is less attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillento Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 [quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1476542166' post='3155093'] I was thinking here. Clearly there's been a lot of thought gone into the design of these heads but there's one thing that always seems to be overlooked; put a freaking tuner in it somehow! I know the case is (quite probably) filled with all manner of amplifier and pre-stage goodiness, but how dreamy would it be to just have an [i]always on[/i] tuner on the top of it? Just a little window say 4cm x 8cm. It's not really meant to be racked, so howabout squeezing in an LCD display similar to the top half of a Boss TU3? Then it truly becomes a one box gigging unit. Call it the 900T and take my money, dammit. Christ, it would be a dream to just leave the house with just bass, couple of cables, the head and cabinet. [/quote] Why sell people a tuner if they already have one? I am trying to have everything on my pedalboard so I can use any amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursus Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Got my M900 from Andertons monday. Tested at home at almost gig volume with my Unicorn 2104 cab 1000W with Faital speakers. Clear and loud with many sound options and a touch breakup with the VMT/BK3. Eager to test drive at tonights rehearsal with my 4 ohm EBS cabs, 410 Neoline and 210 Proline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBerriff Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Have no doubt that Doug and his team provide great support for their products. You are buying into a philosophy that is worth being part of, and you will know what I mean if you have watched the video of Doug discussing the design of the 900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Can this thing do super hifi clean too? (Obviously bypassing all the overdrive stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursus Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1476866377' post='3157826'] Can this thing do super hifi clean too? (Obviously bypassing all the overdrive stuff) [/quote] Not EBS hifi clean. I have a Reidmar 750 and a Streamliner 600, both have the treble/bright at 10/12 Khz as the M900 have the treble break at 5Khz. So if you have the typical EBS glitter string sound in mind I have to say...not really. Edited October 19, 2016 by ursus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 [quote name='ursus' timestamp='1476867147' post='3157837'] Not EBS hifi clean. I have a Reidmar 750 and a Streamliner 600, both have the treble/bright at 10/12 Khz as the M900 have the treble break at 5Khz. So if you have the typical EBS glitter string sound in mind I have to say...not really. [/quote] Well... that's saved me some money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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