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#271 wateroftyne

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:15 AM

I finally got around to doing a video review of the R-400.. watch it here.
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Posted 16 December 2016 - 09:06 PM

Bought TPJ's R-400 earlier in the week. He very kindly brought it to rehearsals and waited whilst I tried it out. I was expecting to give it a proper going over for quite a while but after one song the rest of the band said 'go and give him the money and turn the bloody thing down!'

That was though a single 8ohm cab. Won't get to try it at 4 ohms until the new year but very very good first impressions.

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 10:40 AM

View Postcolleya, on 16 December 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:

Bought TPJ's R-400 earlier in the week. He very kindly brought it to rehearsals and waited whilst I tried it out. I was expecting to give it a proper going over for quite a while but after one song the rest of the band said 'go and give him the money and turn the bloody thing down!'

That was though a single 8ohm cab. Won't get to try it at 4 ohms until the new year but very very good first impressions.

Yeah - it had that effect on me too :-)
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Posted 18 December 2016 - 09:18 PM

I just picked up on this for the first time via another thread, and my interest is distinctly piqued!

I'm in Sussex (so about as far 'darn sarf' as it's possible to get) ... is there anyone around here (or as far afield as London) who has one of these that I could try?

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:37 AM

That's interesting to hear active basses are pushing the pre a bit hard....
Is there anyone else having this issue? Anyone in the U.K. Using a stingray through the 400???
Their video of the all tube amp and stingray sounded great but it does have a different preamp.

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 11:10 AM

View PostHazy Bass, on 18 December 2016 - 09:18 PM, said:

I just picked up on this for the first time via another thread, and my interest is distinctly piqued!

I'm in Sussex (so about as far 'darn sarf' as it's possible to get) ... is there anyone around here (or as far afield as London) who has one of these that I could try?

I'm hoping to get another one for road testing soon, will give you a shout when it gets here. I'm in Herts so a bit closer for you :)

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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:40 PM

View PostDamonjames, on 19 December 2016 - 10:37 AM, said:

That's interesting to hear active basses are pushing the pre a bit hard....
Is there anyone else having this issue? Anyone in the U.K. Using a stingray through the 400???
Their video of the all tube amp and stingray sounded great but it does have a different preamp.

I know we've just chatted about this on FB, but Warwickhunt of this parish as an active Musicman, and he had no problems with headroom when he gigged it. I can't imagine Leszek would design a pre that doesn't work with actives :-)

Also, AFAIK the WB-100 is the same pre.. only the power stage differs.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 07:30 AM

Cheers WoT, that hasn't helped my GAS lol

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 06:16 PM

I don't suppose there are any in the south west that could be heard anywhere are there?
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:36 PM

Also interested to try the R-400 if there is one in Berkshire / Thamesvalley

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:53 PM

View Postdeepbass5, on 20 December 2016 - 09:36 PM, said:

Also interested to try the R-400 if there is one in Berkshire / Thamesvalley

Nancy J has one if you want to contact him:

View PostNancyJohnson, on 02 November 2016 - 09:46 AM, said:

Crowthorne, Berkshire. A few miles east of Reading.

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:55 PM

Nancy J has the trial Red Fighter, which is a different beast. Big and clean. If anyone wants to try it, give him a shout...

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 10:52 PM

I was specifically more interested in not so big or clean!
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 11:13 PM

Not long bought an SWR SM500 from Phsycocandy otherwise would be very interested, but may well get in touch in the new year to AB it against the SWR
is anyone able to comment on how the R 400 compares to the three valve preAmp in the GK MB 500fusion

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 06:55 AM

Actually I imagine the R400 won't be a millions miles away from my GK Fusion 550 - 3 valve preamp and class G power. Next time you're in Harrogate Michael we should do a compare.
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Posted 21 December 2016 - 07:39 AM

If only there were a few more GK fusion 550's about. I've been desperately trying to get one used for 3 years, every time they come up for sale, I am not in a position to buy. Whenever I have cash, they are nowhere to be seen!

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 11:10 AM

Would it be that simple? Isn't teh GK Fusion just a valve preamp and a class D power amp? I thought this wasn't a class D?

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oh, seems I was thinking of a different amp. Although that is a lot more expensive than this isn't it?

Edited by Woodinblack, 21 December 2016 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 12:55 PM

Easy mistake to make woodinblack, I think GK have a similar marketing department to musicman...

MB FUSION 500 is the tube pre/class D power stage

MB FUSION 550 is a tube pre/transformer power stage

This bad boy here

http://www.gallien-k...usion-550-head/


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Posted 25 December 2016 - 09:09 PM

View PostWoodinblack, on 21 December 2016 - 11:10 AM, said:

Would it be that simple? Isn't teh GK Fusion just a valve preamp and a class D power amp? I thought this wasn't a class D?

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oh, seems I was thinking of a different amp. Although that is a lot more expensive than this isn't it?

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 08:59 PM

The big difference is that GK has a "baked-in" sound, the R-400 is a lot more neutral. I went from a MB800 to an R-400 because of two things.
First, I play mostly upright bass and the R-400 gets the sound I want easier, and second, the R-400 is repairable by any decent amp tech, the GK is micro circuitry and would probably need a board replacement in the event of a problem. Oh yeah.... a third! I hate having knobs to twiddle, and the R-400 is minimal in this regard.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:18 PM

Thanks for the observation Marty
I like the thought of having an amp with the facility to notch out any undesirables, but in practice I tend to use the same settings and leave them. My basses have all the EQ i could need if i was honest, so providing the R-400 is warm enough it would suit my one cab jazz gigs a treat

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 02:18 AM

I live in New Zealand, so my purchase of the R-400 was totally blind. The only review I could find was wateroftyne's, so it's all his fault! J/k! I have no regrets at all, it suits me just fine. Despite the minimal knobs, it has a very powerful eq, although most of the time I don't need it, flat is fine. I opened it up one day (because I'm a tinkerer) and the build quality is absolutely top notch. Componentry matches any top end head I have ever seen.
I still keep an MB200 but am using it to power my monitor wedges in my PA system.

Edited by Marty Forrer, 11 January 2017 - 02:20 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:26 PM

View PostMarty Forrer, on 11 January 2017 - 02:18 AM, said:

I live in New Zealand, so my purchase of the R-400 was totally blind. The only review I could find was wateroftyne's, so it's all his fault! J/k! I have no regrets at all, it suits me just fine. Despite the minimal knobs, it has a very powerful eq, although most of the time I don't need it, flat is fine. I opened it up one day (because I'm a tinkerer) and the build quality is absolutely top notch. Componentry matches any top end head I have ever seen.
I still keep an MB200 but am using it to power my monitor wedges in my PA system.

Sorry about that :)

Yep, running it flat does the job for me, too. It sounds just like a bass should (IMO).
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:48 PM

I don't suppose anyone has one of these anywhere near the Glasgow area do they? I haven't seen one mentioned on the thread, but mentioning just in case there's a lurker.

They sound ideal - I'm currently using an Ashdown tube pre / SS power amp but it's too powerful (and therefore too heavy) for my needs. The master never gets past eight o'clock, so I'm thinking this might be a better fit for me.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:27 AM

 magee, on 11 January 2017 - 03:48 PM, said:

I don't suppose anyone has one of these anywhere near the Glasgow area do they? I haven't seen one mentioned on the thread, but mentioning just in case there's a lurker.

There's none that I'm aware of - there's a couple in Newcastle, but I think that's the closest... at the moment.
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Posted 17 January 2017 - 12:51 PM

Here's another little clip I made yesterday - P pup solo'd, mic on the cab.


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Posted 21 January 2017 - 03:42 PM

Hello!

Does anyone in London/South East have a trial one of these that I could perhaps test drive at a rehearsal?

Thank you

Jim

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 04:28 PM

I think with the interest these are generating, it might be worth their while getting them in a few places around teh country where people could try them.
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:51 PM

I get to gig my r400 for the first time tonight after a few very agreeable one cab rehearsals :)

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 06:10 PM

Good luck! Which cab are you using with it? Anyone played one through a Barefaced Super Compact or One10?

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