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#31 Les

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 12:20 PM

View Postbluejay, on 22 July 2016 - 09:56 AM, said:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL, subscribed - thank you Jack for pointing this thread out to me. Priceless :sun_bespectacled:

This is deadly serious stuff I'll have you know :lol:
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Posted 22 July 2016 - 12:29 PM

Since this thread started I've been trying to recall a certain track - and here it is (the B side to From East to West IIRC)


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 01:19 PM

View PostLes, on 22 July 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

This is deadly serious stuff I'll have you know :lol:

It is indeed! I'm learning a lot from this thread. :) B)

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 03:09 PM

I have have today learned this in it's entirety

https://www.youtube....h?v=LafC2gKsXV8

but I need it to be a semi tone lower.
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Posted 22 July 2016 - 03:23 PM

Have you considered laying that down over, say, a disco beat?
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Posted 22 July 2016 - 08:13 PM

View Postpaul_c2, on 21 July 2016 - 10:57 PM, said:

Yep - which is great when instruments with just tuning play together - eg string quartet, horn section, choir. But when they have to play with other instruments - piano, woodwind etc everyone needs to be in tune, so stuff like piano dictates that its equal temprament.

In theory a guitar could be constructed and tuned to just tuning - but its fretboard would be correct in only a handful of keys and an open tuning would need to be used. As soon as the limitation of those few keys is removed, the requirement means the frets need to be equally spaced to avoid bad clashes on certain notes.
:) You could, like one instrument I play, have movable frets.... which is why older music is written in a small number of related keys
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Posted 22 July 2016 - 08:17 PM

View Postbertbass, on 22 July 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Mrs Bert always wanted to play bagpipes so no expense spared, I bought her a set for Christmas one year, they cost about £60. Totally useless. Mrs Bert thought it was her not being able to get much of a sound out of them but it turns out that the cheap bagpipes are rubbish and no one can play them. You have to spend a lot of cash to get bagpipes that can actually be played. The cheap ones look good hanging on the wall as an ornament though.
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Posted 23 July 2016 - 10:53 AM

Well I've decided that with Scotland believing Bb to be A I'm proper screwed :(
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Posted 23 July 2016 - 03:25 PM

1) Work out what 440-Hz key the bagpipes come closest to.
2) Transpose song to suit.
3) Buy a suitable tartan kilt and bearskin, it just doesn't look right without them. (Or sound right with them, at least to some people's ears :) )

Edited by alyctes, 23 July 2016 - 03:27 PM.


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Posted 23 July 2016 - 10:35 PM

View Postalyctes, on 23 July 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

1) Work out what 440-Hz key the bagpipes come closest to.
2) Transpose song to suit.
3) Buy a suitable tartan kilt and bearskin, it just doesn't look right without them. (Or sound right with them, at least to some people's ears :) )

1) Bb
2) Not worth it for 60 seconds arsing about/sketch
3) That's the spirit of the whole quest :lol:
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Posted 27 July 2016 - 06:30 AM

Any pipes that you can get for £60 will be :
A - in the wrong key
B- not at concert pitch
C- virtually unplayable
I used to make and play various types of bagpipe , including ones that played a 1 1/2 octave range that were virtually chromatic. A snip at £1600.
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Posted 30 July 2016 - 09:43 AM

You could always simply get a practice cantor. Not bad for £25-30.

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 10:03 AM

View Postbertbass, on 22 July 2016 - 10:51 AM, said:

Mrs Bert always wanted to play bagpipes so no expense spared, I bought her a set for Christmas one year, they cost about £60. Totally useless. Mrs Bert thought it was her not being able to get much of a sound out of them but it turns out that the cheap bagpipes are rubbish and no one can play them. You have to spend a lot of cash to get bagpipes that can actually be played. The cheap ones look good hanging on the wall as an ornament though.
This, unfortunately.
Another possible type to consider is the Irish, Uilleann pipes. Play in D. Sorted! There's also an excellent teacher of such things just near Halifax.
The theatre and comedy potential of such things is immense, as bits sometimes drop off mid-tune!
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Posted 30 July 2016 - 10:06 AM

Les, have you thought about trying it on a fretless?
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Posted 30 July 2016 - 01:24 PM

View PostGrangur, on 30 July 2016 - 10:06 AM, said:

Les, have you thought about trying it on a fretless?

No mate, the sound is the least concern, it's the visual impact of standing on the bar playing bagpipes we would be after,
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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:48 PM

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No mate, the sound is the least concern, it's the visual impact of standing on the bar playing bagpipes we would be after,

Lol. So 69.99 specials it is then. :D
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Posted 30 July 2016 - 11:37 PM

View PostLes, on 30 July 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

No mate, the sound is the least concern, it's the visual impact of standing on the bar playing bagpipes we would be after,

Aah. So what you actually want is a prop, and the guitarist or keys could play the actual tune :)

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 01:34 AM

View Postalyctes, on 30 July 2016 - 11:37 PM, said:

Aah. So what you actually want is a prop, and the guitarist or keys could play the actual tune :)

First and foremost yes, but to not actually play them live would be as dishonest as playing a reliced bass :lol:
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Posted 23 November 2016 - 10:42 PM

a video you have to see ..... this is are sardinian bagpipes, very popular in sardinia , this guy is a master ......

https://www.youtube....h?v=BzWITU3L-F0

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:36 AM

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a video you have to see ..... this is are sardinian bagpipes, very popular in sardinia , this guy is a master ......

https://www.youtube....h?v=BzWITU3L-F0

The first minute is really very impressive.

The second minute is a bit ... erm ... what happens next?

Then it really, really starts to grate!

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:41 AM



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Posted 24 November 2016 - 01:32 PM

That was just gorgeous - what an extraordinarily talented lady (& band).

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 02:28 PM

Any recommendations for beginner bagpipes?
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Posted 24 November 2016 - 03:41 PM

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Us Northumbrians win at pipes. :-)

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 12:14 PM

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Any recommendations for beginner bagpipes?

Find a tutor and be guided by them.

For a playable set of Delrin (plastic) pipe expect to pay several hundred pounds, more for wood. Avoid buying cheap pipe via ebay or on-line, you'll get what you pay for which is not very much in terms of a playable instrument. To quote a piping friend of mine "They look nice on the wall".

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 07:04 PM

View Postwateroftyne, on 24 November 2016 - 09:41 AM, said:



Us Northumbrians win at pipes. :-)

It's a close call - border pipes, Uillean pipes,

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 11:41 PM

I occasionally get to play with this lass, who is fantastic on Northumbrian and Uillean pipes as well as various other instruments. .

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 10:52 AM

My brother knows a piper who hadn't played for many a year . On picking up the pipes again he discovered that he didn't have the puff any more to play so he went to see his doctor to get his breathing checked . It turned out that he was fine and the problem was a leak in the bag part of the pipes !





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