Thunderbird Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Hi Mates I have just about got my pedal board how I want it but my problem is I have put a buffer at the start of the chain and I find it really helps with my tone/signal but the problem I am having is that when I put my compressor on the volume drops bigtime I have moved the buffer and compressor about in the chain but with the same result so I am just wondering if it is not possible to rum the buffer and comp at the same time? sorry if this sounds like a daft question but I really dont understand all the pedal black magic I just know what sounds good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Have you tried the comp on it's own to see if it's working properly? Might be the gain compensation on the pedal playing up. If you have and it's only with the buffer then I have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Hi Gareth thanks for the reply yes I have tried that and a different comp but is still the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) Odd, I run both on my board and always on. Seems like an issue. What are you running comp and buffer wise? Edited July 26, 2016 by HazBeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Hi it's a Beringer dc9 comp and just a cheap buffer from eBay I just find it odd as they work great on there own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winny Pooh Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) The positions in the chain are possibly exacerbated by your choice of power supply. This is far less likely to happen with balanced, grounded outputs. Edited July 27, 2016 by Winny Pooh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hmmm thanks for that mate will try my spare PSU or a battery and see what happens :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Maybe the buffer is also boosting the signal to a level that the compressor's make-up gain can't match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xroads Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 It sounds like you have a level matching issue. The buffer increases your signal level quite a bit, and when you turn on the comp (which is after the buffer) it cannot handle the high level that the buffer delivers, and acts as a limiter. You have two choices: either you decrease the level (i.e. output volume) of your buffer, so that the compressor can handle it, or you try reversing the order of your chain, i.e. compressor first, then buffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 If the compressor is always on, you might not need for the buffer, since it effectively is one. The only reason you would need the buffer is to prevent signal losses if you were running a long chain of FX and the compressor was near the end instead of near the beginning of the chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1471429695' post='3112963'] If the compressor is always on, you might not need for the buffer, since it effectively is one. The only reason you would need the buffer is to prevent signal losses if you were running a long chain of FX and the compressor was near the end instead of near the beginning of the chain. [/quote] Pretty much what I was thinking. If your setting the make up gain level correctly on the comp and it is always on then I can't really see the need for a buffer. I had an active Morley volume pedal which I ran into my compressor and they didn't play too nicely together at first. Fortunately my compressor has a pad button which sorted the issue but buffering the signal up only to pad it back down again seems a bit counter productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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