essexbasscat Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 So, the guitarist in the band is adamant he can use a jack plug in a neutrik socket, but I'm quite dubious TBH. I've attempted to fit a jack plug in the centre hole, but is seems to be a very tight fit, most unlike a usual jack socket. I honestly don't know if the centre hole of a neutrik socket has ring and tip connectors Will it work in any shape or fashion ? Cheers BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary mac Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Some of them are designed to take both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexbasscat Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Are there any visible indicators as to which type will work with a jack plug ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Yes, the hole in the middle is large enough to accommodate a jack. If it fits it accommodates, if it doesn't well you know the answer then. Edited November 25, 2016 by HazBeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 [quote name='essexbasscat' timestamp='1480064426' post='3181337'] So, the guitarist in the band is adamant he can use a jack plug in a neutrik socket, but I'm quite dubious TBH. I've attempted to fit a jack plug in the centre hole, but is seems to be a very tight fit, most unlike a usual jack socket. I honestly don't know if the centre hole of a neutrik socket has ring and tip connectors Will it work in any shape or fashion ? Cheers BC [/quote] Yes. That's exactly what it is designed for. Accepts XLR or 6.35mm jack. If there's an issue it's with the plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Same for neutrik speakon connectors as well. My Rh750 can do both jack and speakons from its combo connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Green Neutrik 2-pole Speakons can take 1/4-inch jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 [quote name='rmorris' timestamp='1480066489' post='3181356'] Yes. That's exactly what it is designed for. Accepts XLR or 6.35mm jack. If there's an issue it's with the plug. [/quote] Good shout - if it's a planet waves jack plug it will be slightly over size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Only some Neutrik plugs are dual use. My Aguilar TH500 and Mesa D800 Subway [u][b]cannot[/b][/u] take 1/4" jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexbasscat Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Thought I'd ask this one, as one of my passive speaker cabs won't accept a 1/4" jack, neither will my Eden i-amp 800 at it's neutrik outputs Both the plugs I mention above don't have the 'T' appearance of Hazbeen's picture - they have a complete ring around the centre hole. Not sure if this an indicator of something ? Edited November 25, 2016 by essexbasscat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hazbeen's picture is an XLR/jack combo socket made by Neutrik, the sort of thing you'd see on a line-level input. Since you're talking about Speakon connectors, most can't be used with 1/4" jacks. The Neutrik branded Speakon/jack sockets are dark green and have the word "combo" moulded into the plastic so should be fairly easy to spot - the black Neutrik Speakon sockets won't take a 1/4" jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 [quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1480075611' post='3181457'] Hazbeen's picture is an XLR/jack combo socket made by Neutrik, the sort of thing you'd see on a line-level input. Since you're talking about Speakon connectors, most can't be used with 1/4" jacks. The Neutrik branded Speakon/jack sockets are dark green and have the word "combo" moulded into the plastic so should be fairly easy to spot - the black Neutrik Speakon sockets won't take a 1/4" jack. [/quote] Of course, that is correct. Sorry about that (short night), the dark green ones are the Speakon versions that can take jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike257 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Neutrik are a company that make a massive variety of connectors so "a Neutrik socket" is a broad and sweeping statement! They do manufacture combo XLR/jack sockets for line level signals, and combo Speakon/jack sockets for amps/cabs, but both are the exception rather than the rule when it comes to what kit manufacturers choose to fit on their products, as the combo versions are more costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 [quote name='mike257' timestamp='1480282234' post='3183099'] Neutrik are a company that make a massive variety of connectors so "a Neutrik socket" is a broad and sweeping statement! They do manufacture combo XLR/jack sockets for line level signals, and combo Speakon/jack sockets for amps/cabs, but both are the exception rather than the rule when it comes to what kit manufacturers choose to fit on their products, as the combo versions are more costly. [/quote] Very True. And they also own the Rean brand ( more focused on 'value' vs 'quality' but still pretty good ). Along with Switchcraft from the USA they are the 'premium' 1/4 inch (6.35mm) jack and XLR connector manufacturers ( although the XLR was originated by Cannon and Deltron may dispute the quality issue). But numerous other manufacturers exist and accuracy of the dimensions is sometimes not as good as it might be. This can lead to some difficulty in mating plugs and sockets from different brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexbasscat Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 [quote name='mike257' timestamp='1480282234' post='3183099'] Neutrik are a company that make a massive variety of connectors so "a Neutrik socket" is a broad and sweeping statement! They do manufacture combo XLR/jack sockets for line level signals, and combo Speakon/jack sockets for amps/cabs, but both are the exception rather than the rule when it comes to what kit manufacturers choose to fit on their products, as the combo versions are more costly. [/quote] This is very true. I meant Speakon socket, I hope most people understood that after my description of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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