bassace Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 He's very good at singing other people's (mainly Guy Cambers) songs, much like eg Susan Boyle. So no icon. But his concert last night was great, especially the drummer. So busy I was initially thinking there were two kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Massive Industry back-slapping backhander alert. Album to promote for a failing artist and a build up to a reunion/anniversary tour (which happened a few years back with Progress so they've stolen their own thunder already) to push. [u]Massively[/u] successful performer/recording artist? Yes. Icon? My arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I am not a fan of his particularly. I watched him on tv performing live, and he was playing Let Me Entertain You. He was a really good showman and really got the crowd going. I started having a bit of respect for his craft. As too whether he is an Icon, I am not too sure. In the last 20 years, I guess it is between him and Will.I.Am. I would go with Robbie out of the 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Saw him live at Knebworth, I've never seen an artist hold a crowd that big so effortlessly in the palm of his hand. It was as remarkable a performance as I've ever seen. He's definitely an icon, it all depends on your definition of 'icon' as to whether that's a good thing or a bad thing...an icon after all can be defined as the visual representation of something, not necessarily the thing itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Long overdue, the man has strode like a colossus through popular music for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidbass Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Has he surpassed Take That as a solo artist I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 "For artistes whose writing, recordings and performance have made a lasting impact on the nation's culture" I don't think so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Well - given that Angels or Let Me Entertain You are inevitable entries in dire pub karaoke nights - I reckon it has affected our culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 [quote name='chardbass' timestamp='1481022514' post='3188988'] Massive Industry back-slapping backhander alert. Album to promote for a failing artist and a build up to a reunion/anniversary tour (which happened a few years back with Progress so they've stolen their own thunder already) to push. [u]Massively[/u] successful performer/recording artist? Yes. Icon? My arse. [/quote]This. I'm always suspicious when the tail appears to be wagging the dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 [quote name='Barking Spiders' timestamp='1481014525' post='3188891'] Like Oasis, Williams was on top of the pile for a few years in the UK but was unable to sustain the same level of critical or commercial success over the longer term. Now he's half forgotten. Outside the UK and especially in the US he aroused little interest. He has an unremarkable voice while Guy Chambers actually wrote the music to his big hits. [/quote] Funnily enough I do lump him into the same box as Oasis - and not just because I can't stand either of them. Absolutely massive for a few years in the '90s before losing the plot and spending a long time in the wilderness with a few slightly sad-looking attempts to return to fame. As chard suggests above, it does seem to coincide a [i]bit [/i]too conveniently with the release of a comeback single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmo Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 His story on the Graeme Norton show was very funny. http://youtu.be/jXLQIO3gRM0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 [quote name='KevB' timestamp='1481026521' post='3189042'] Long overdue, the man has strode like a colossus through popular music for years. [/quote] Superb Sir. Post of the month, If not the decade. Still laughing. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 what a joke, you mean some committee thinks he is the third most iconic british performer? are they for real? that's why all awards are pointless excercises in self-promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Hope he shares it with Guy Chambers (who wrote most of his stuff). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Mediocrity will always have a place at Radio 2 - they're playing his single this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Robbie Williams an icon? Don't make me laugh. Just because he's sold 19m albums in the UK and another 57m worldwide and had 7 UK #1 singles and 31 UK top ten singles and 12 UK #1 albums and 17 Brit awards doesn't make him an [i]icon[/i]. Just the most chart-topping British solo artist ever which is completely meaningless out of context. Performer? Not even on the same planet as Richard Jobson out of The Skids which was the first band I saw back in 1978. And he doesn't even write his own songs unlike Elton John and - er - Bernie Taupin. If Robbie Williams got up and sang at one of my band's monthly gigs at the Frog and F*ckwit I bet no one would even notice. What a loser. [color=#ffffe0].[/color] Edited December 7, 2016 by skankdelvar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandad Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Maybe a BC Icon Award might be in order for members who have made a lasting impact on Basschat. I would second Blue for bringing The Beatles and Milwaukee to our attention. Many others are worthy I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 We supported Take That this year , oh sorry that was Re Take That Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1481148899' post='3190140'] Robbie Williams an icon? Don't make me laugh. Just because he's sold 19m albums in the UK and another 57m worldwide and had 7 UK #1 singles and 31 UK top ten singles and 12 UK #1 albums and 17 Brit awards doesn't make him an [i]icon[/i]. Just the most chart-topping British solo artist ever which is completely meaningless out of context. Performer? Not even on the same planet as Richard Jobson out of The Skids which was the first band I saw back in 1978. And he doesn't even write his own songs unlike Elton John and - er - Bernie Taupin. If Robbie Williams got up and sang at one of my band's monthly gigs at the Frog and F*ckwit I bet no one would even notice. What a loser. [color=#ffffe0].[/color] [/quote] Exactly. It's all about sales and who's career the record companies want to wring another bestseller out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1481179586' post='3190229'] I really enjoyed Good Morning Vietnam, but with the exception of maybe Mrs.Doubtfire, everything went downhill after that. [/quote] Badum....... Tish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downdown Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 [quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1480971691' post='3188642'] Whoever thought to award it to that plonker when there's literally dozens of more deserving artists out there needs their head examining, what a joke. [/quote] Replace 'that plonker' with the name of any artist you care to name and that sentiment will ring true for some people and not others. It's all just opinion, there's no right or wrong. There might well be sour grapes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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