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Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:58 PM

Hi folks. Quick question. I have my head at home but not the cab. Is it OK to use the head on its own to run the DI or do I need a cab attached for safety reasons? Thanks.
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Posted 02 January 2017 - 08:32 PM

As long as it doesn't have a valve power stage, you'll be fine so things like Ashdown ABMs, SWRs, EBS etc plus any modern class D range will be safe.. On the other hand, if it's something like an SVT CL then you'll need a speaker or a dummy load as you'll hurt the valves and / or output transformer without..
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Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:15 PM

No valves - it's an Ashdown MAG300. I've just been recording di up to now and using amp sims with pretty decent results but I fancied trying this for a change. Really don't want to damage anything as it's not long repaired and it's my only amp.
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Posted 03 January 2017 - 10:30 AM

you may find the result unsatisfactory, as I did. Not because the amp isn't good, but because the cab adds more to the sound than I realised. Using the amp's DI is not much more 'warm' than going straight in to the interface. Just my experience trying to find the right tone. Bought a tube pre amp, tried micing the cab, tried the amp's DI. In the end, the bass sounded better going straight into my interface, go figure.
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Posted 03 January 2017 - 12:53 PM

I agree, you may as well go straight to the interface from your bass (assuming the interface has an Instrument input), then just use a amp/cab sim VST for the rest.
I recently recording an album with my Precision direct to my Focusrite Clarett and it sounded brilliant, didn't use any VSTs other than a little compression.

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 02:53 PM

The interface is an Audient iD14 so it has an instrument DI. I just got it for Xmas and am still getting used to it. The DI seems very hot and the only way I can get a signal in without it clipping is by turning the volume down on the bass: I think this loses a bit of the character of the bass. I've the gain on the mixer right down and I'm still going into the red!
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:24 AM

Turns out there is a fault with the interface. It's away back to Thomann for replacement.
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 12:08 PM

Hope they sort it for you quickly.. B)
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 04:10 PM

Thanks man. Back to using the Line 6 and it's just not doing it for me any more.
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:54 PM

I actually had better results going through the DI on my Markbass 121P into my interface (Focusrite Forte) than plugging direct into the Forte. I got a much cleaner, better balanced sound. You can always use an amp/cab emulator (Amplitube, Guitar Rig etc.) to get something like the cab sound if you wanted.
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Posted 22 January 2017 - 02:33 AM

View PostMornats, on 21 January 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

I actually had better results going through the DI on my Markbass 121P into my interface (Focusrite Forte) than plugging direct into the Forte. I got a much cleaner, better balanced sound. You can always use an amp/cab emulator (Amplitube, Guitar Rig etc.) to get something like the cab sound if you wanted.

I wasn't going to chime in on that front but since it's been mentioned, I agree.. I use the DI on the V4 for probably 75% of the recordings I do and it works great. Using the compressor a bit harder than I do live yeilds the best results for me.

The amp (unlike its older and larger siblings) has a built in dummy load so can be operated without a speaker although it's a heavy DI box!
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Posted 23 January 2017 - 09:26 PM

I use to record from the di output of my bass prodigy in one channel and form the bk7 ultra in another one.
I get decent results, I would love to mic my cab and get the valve sound but I cannot do it in my flat and I don't have any mic to do that.
I noticed when I recorded my bass without di, sound was pretty weak (I use passive basses).

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 12:38 PM

Well I got the Audient back. It's brilliant - no need for anything between the bass and the interface.
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Posted 24 January 2017 - 02:15 PM

I've just upgraded to a laptop with an Audient ID14 too and the pre's are awesome
Great interface

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:36 PM

Nice one! I am very pleased with mine.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 06:14 PM

What are the drivers and latency like on the Audients?

Edited by Mornats, 25 January 2017 - 06:14 PM.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 01:16 PM

Everything seems fine in that respect. Easy to set up, download updates from the Audient website and you're good to go. As for latency, I have it set at "minimum" and I am not experiencing any problems whatsoever. Running through Reaper and using VSTs in real time has not been a problem.
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Posted 27 January 2017 - 07:04 AM

Exactly as above
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