Owen Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) I have a preamp that I am thinking about sending back to the manufacturer to be brought up to present spec. He is in the USA. Am I going to get smacked about for import duties at both ends or is there a way around it seeing as I own it and have paid full whack for it? I am not importing it. TIA. Edited January 7, 2017 by owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I looked into this once. There was a lot of complicated form-filling and grey areas involved, so I decided against it. I hope you can make sense of it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1483823394' post='3210475'] I looked into this once. There was a lot of complicated form-filling and grey areas involved, so I decided against it. I hope you can make sense of it.... [/quote] Yup, indeed! You need a Waybill Number from the original importing of the device to send the item back under a 'repair code' on the paperwork. When that has been done then the manufacturer needs the same information to send it back to you to ensure you don't pay twice. Of course the problem is always with getting the original details and then a courier who actually knows how to deal with the forms correctly. I had one enormous balls-up from one courier who I got so frustrated with, it was easier to cough up the extra. Never again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Ugh! This would mean remembering who I bought it from on here. Just as well I never clear out my PM box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 [quote name='owen' timestamp='1483824667' post='3210485'] Ugh! This would mean remembering who I bought it from on here. Just as well I never clear out my PM box! [/quote] And you're assuming they have the documents related to their buying it from the USA, assuming they were the original owner/importer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Sadness, the PM search function does not work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 [quote name='owen' timestamp='1483825810' post='3210496'] Sadness, the PM search function does not work [/quote] [url="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&oq=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.10119j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]Here you go...[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1483825260' post='3210489'] And you're assuming they have the documents related to their buying it from the USA, assuming they were the original owner/importer. [/quote] It is wired up for UK voltage so am presuming it is a proper import. I have 50 pages of PMs to wade through to see if I can find who I bought it from. First world problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1483825899' post='3210498'] [url="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&oq=site%3Abasschat.co.uk+duty+repair+mport&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.10119j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"]Here you go...[/url] [/quote] Thanks, is there a magic trick for me to search my PMs as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Found it. Quite a scary walk through 6 years of rampant GAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) It's not as difficult as it is being made out above. Check out the below - [url="https://www.fedex.com/gtm/pdf/USF076.pdf"]https://www.fedex.co.../pdf/USF076.pdf[/url] (Document is 19 CFR 10.1 - Domestic products; requirements on entry.) I returned an £2k item (insured shipping was £100 - ouch!) to the States and it was pretty straightforward... you fill in the above item and send it with the item. A similar form is completed for the return journey by the vendor. My post office were pretty clued up - but I would wager it's pretty much pot luck on that front. No hold ups or anything - it did get checked - and it was all like clockwork. Hope this helps! Edited January 8, 2017 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Can the work be done in UK. Maybe the mfr has an authroised repair service here. ? There are electronic repair shops that can quite easily do repairs or upgrades. If its out of warranty then there isn't really much of an issue and its more about finding a good reliable company in UK. Would certainly save a lot of possible issues Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) [url="https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-236-returned-goods-relief/notice-236-returned-goods-relief"]https://www.gov.uk/g...ed-goods-relief[/url] Yes you can.. We did this all the time when we sent stuff for FCC certfication to a US test lab. Edited January 8, 2017 by markstuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1483841088' post='3210597'] It's not as difficult as it is being made out above. Check out the below - [url="https://www.fedex.com/gtm/pdf/USF076.pdf"]https://www.fedex.co.../pdf/USF076.pdf[/url] (Document is 19 CFR 10.1 - Domestic products; requirements on entry.) I returned an £2k item (insured shipping was £100 - ouch!) to the States and it was pretty straightforward... you fill in the above item and send it with the item. A similar form is completed for the return journey by the vendor. My post office were pretty clued up - but I would wager it's pretty much pot luck on that front. No hold ups or anything - it did get checked - and it was all like clockwork. Hope this helps! [/quote] Yeah - this is gloriously simple but it screams 'Pot luck'. If there's a bit chunk of money involved, I'd be reluctant to take the risk on this method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1483871744' post='3210685'] Yeah - this is gloriously simple but it screams 'Pot luck'. If there's a bit chunk of money involved, I'd be reluctant to take the risk on this method. [/quote] Perhaps - but the company involved had said to me that they had never any issues with the process so who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1483876156' post='3210730'] Perhaps - but the company involved had said to me that they had never any issues with the process so who knows? [/quote] Really? Wow. I wish I'd know about this back when I needed it...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I'm almost certain you can temporarily export items for service/repair and then not pay duty on it upon re-import, as you've already paid the due tax on it. I'll speak to our export compliance officer at work on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 [quote name='Graham' timestamp='1483878442' post='3210748'] I'm almost certain you can temporarily export items for service/repair and then not pay duty on it upon re-import, as you've already paid the due tax on it. I'll speak to our export compliance officer at work on Monday. [/quote] You certainly can. This thread is a discussion about how exactly you do it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I was going to check on the mechanics as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Can the work be done in UK. Maybe the mfr has an authroised repair service here. ? There are electronic repair shops that can quite easily do repairs or upgrades. If its out of warranty then there isn't really much of an issue and its more about finding a good reliable company in UK. Would certainly save a lot of possible issues Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Thanks everyone for all the info, both given and promised. The preamp is a Monique and the info for the latest mods (mine is very early) is not out there. I am sure that a decent tech could do it but Jule has the secret sauce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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