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Posted 08 January 2017 - 10:58 AM

Look at the youtube vid, The Cult Live at the Lyceum.

The Stingray tone. But with what? Chorus and some delay perhaps?
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 11:02 AM


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Posted 08 January 2017 - 11:12 AM

Sounds like compression and chorus to me.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 03:08 PM

Ahhh, one of my all time favourite live recordings. Usually can't stand Stingrays but Jamie sounds absolutely monster here

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 04:55 PM

View Postahpook, on 08 January 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

Sounds like compression and chorus to me.

Goth bass, right there :)

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 05:01 PM

View Postkendall, on 08 January 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

This. Jamie was one of my main influences in my early bass playing days.

Simon Gallup for me....similar sound and set-up.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 07:44 PM

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 08:14 PM

View Postahpook, on 08 January 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

Sounds like compression and chorus to me.

Goth bass, right there :)

Chorus is an effect, compression is processing. Neither are tone.

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 08:39 PM

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Posted 08 January 2017 - 09:39 PM

View Postblue, on 08 January 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

Chorus is an effect, compression is processing. Neither are tone.

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Ok,I didn't mention tone, nor say anything about whether compression and chorus are effects or processing.

Not sure what you're getting at....did you mean to reply to the OP ?

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 03:53 AM

View Postahpook, on 08 January 2017 - 09:39 PM, said:



Ok,I didn't mention tone, nor say anything about whether compression and chorus are effects or processing.

Not sure what you're getting at....did you mean to reply to the OP ?

Well the thread reads, "How do I get this tone" I wasn't sure why chorus and compression were mentioned as they don't give anyone tone.

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:25 AM

Okay. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks for the replys thus far.

To clarify,Can anyone offer myself any advice with regards to achieving a similar sound to the bass in the video?

I can hear a chorus effect, but is that all?

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 10:44 AM

View Postblue, on 09 January 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:

Well the thread reads, "How do I get this tone" I wasn't sure why chorus and compression were mentioned as they don't give anyone tone.

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Yes, that's what you said earlier.

Edited by ahpook, 09 January 2017 - 11:12 AM.


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 10:54 AM

View PostDandelion, on 09 January 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

I can hear a chorus effect, but is that all?

Ta.

I think you're hearing a very Stingray sound, which can almost sound like two basses playing at the same time - the trebly 'click' and then more usual bassy sound.

Have a listen to 'Kyoto Song' at 21.40 ....a similar bass sound maybe ? That's compression & chorus, maybe some flanger


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Posted 09 January 2017 - 11:16 AM

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Look at the youtube vid, The Cult Live at the Lyceum.

The Stingray tone. But with what? Chorus and some delay perhaps?

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Posted 09 January 2017 - 06:08 PM

View PostDandelion, on 08 January 2017 - 10:58 AM, said:

Look at the youtube vid, The Cult Live at the Lyceum.

The Stingray tone. But with what? Chorus and some delay perhaps?

View Postblue, on 09 January 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:

Well the thread reads, "How do I get this tone" I wasn't sure why chorus and compression were mentioned as they don't give anyone tone.

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Chorus and compression are tone shapers...which i think is what the OP was asking.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:31 PM

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Chorus and compression are tone shapers...which i think is what the OP was asking.

In my opinion chorus and compression are effects and have nothing to do with tone. Tone comes from your fingers.

Maybe the proper question should have been "What effects do I use to get my bass to sound like this?"

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:41 PM

View Postblue, on 11 January 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

In my opinion chorus and compression are effects and have nothing to do with tone. Tone comes from your fingers.

Maybe the proper question should have been "What effects do I use to get my bass to sound like this?"

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 02:56 PM

View Postblue, on 11 January 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

In my opinion chorus and compression are effects and have nothing to do with tone. Tone comes from your fingers.

Maybe the proper question should have been "What effects do I use to get my bass to sound like this?"

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Everybody knew what he meant. Tone and sound are interchangeable in common usage I would say even if it doesn't meet the definition.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:16 PM

Back to the sound. I agree a dollop of chorus and compression. Tones in the plectrum.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:17 PM

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Tones in the plectrum.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:37 PM

View Postblue, on 09 January 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:

Well the thread reads, "How do I get this tone" I wasn't sure why chorus and compression were mentioned as they don't give anyone tone.

Yes they do.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:41 PM

Back on topic ... Jamie used Boss pedals, so matski's suggestion of a Boss CE-2 is a good one. When Jamie joined Death Cult (shortly to become The Cult) as bassist, he switched from lead guitar and gave most of his pedals to the bands guitarist Billy Duffy. He still uses most of them to this day.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:15 PM

View Postchriswareham, on 11 January 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:



Yes they do.

That's because we define tone differently.

To be fair, respectfully keep your definition of tone and I'll keep mine.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:12 PM

View PostLow End Bee, on 11 January 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

Back to the sound. I agree a dollop of chorus and compression. Tones in the plectrum.

Haha brilliant, i concur. :D

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:57 PM

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That's because we define tone differently.

To be fair, respectfully keep your definition of tone and I'll keep mine.

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Apologies for sidetracking, but I'm a little confused.

Are you saying you believe the tone comes from the "playing" hand, the fretting hand or a combination of both?

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:47 PM

View Posthiram.k.hackenbacker, on 12 January 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:



Apologies for sidetracking, but I'm a little confused.

Are you saying you believe the tone comes from the "playing" hand, the fretting hand or a combination of both?

Tone comes from a combination of how your hitting the strings and how your fretting.IMO

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:56 PM

View Postblue, on 12 January 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

Tone comes from a combination of how your hitting the strings and how your fretting.IMO

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