Kevin Dean Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 [quote name='uk_lefty' timestamp='1486385032' post='3231260'] My only criticism of the cab would be power handling seems low. I expected more than 250w [/quote]Maybe it's because most people use two ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I`ve got a couple of these on the way, a 210 and 115. I know the theories about different speaker sizes but this pair were decently priced, and every other 210/115 set-up I`ve had has worked great so am taking a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 [quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1486486578' post='3232209'] Maybe it's because most people use two ? [/quote] True. But most of the more expensive lightweight cabs take more wattage, and a lot of the new class d head units pump out more than 500 watts. I'd have thought cabs would follow the trend with head units really. 250 works for me now with my current set up, but if I upgrade from a combo to a new head and cab then this may get left behind unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) A 500W Amp is usually 500 into 4 ohms but 250 watts into 8 ohms. Should be fine providing the efficiency is ok Edited February 9, 2017 by Chienmortbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I only upgraded to the Sica drivers because I use a ABM1000 .. But I did a ferw gigs with the White cone & had no problems at all volume & clarity wise . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 & tone-wise Kevin, is there something different in the 700w? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Not that I've noticed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm really interested in these cabs, Ashdown have them spec'ed at 14kg which is double the weight of the One10's I have just now. Did I read that the 700w driver brings the weight down to 11kg? Sure I read that somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I`ve not used my 210/115 set-up yet but they are nice and compact and easily portable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='largo' timestamp='1486927293' post='3235635'] I'm really interested in these cabs, Ashdown have them spec'ed at 14kg which is double the weight of the One10's I have just now. Did I read that the 700w driver brings the weight down to 11kg? Sure I read that somewhere. [/quote]Mine are 12" with Sica drivers I'll weigh them tomorrow . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Tried mine out yesterday and am very pleased. OK, not at full gigging volumes but the sound I wanted was there, not far from my ABM cabs which is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) The 12" with Sica driver comes in at 26 lbs . Edited February 15, 2017 by Kevin Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peety Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Has anyone had any experience of one of the RM500 115 combos, currently using a Fender rumble which i really like as its very portable and suits pub gigs i do at the moment However always generally had Ashdown ABM amps and i swapped an ABM500 210 for the fender purely for ease of portability, This attracts me because of the weight and the fact i've always preferred 15's to 10's. Guess what i'm asking is how these compare soundwise to the ABM'S, would prefer to stick to a combo as i like the ease of the plug and play Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Cheers Kevin, just shy of 12kg. I could live with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I`ve got the ABM600 with ABM210/410 cabs, and the RM500 with RM210/115 cabs. Impressions are that the ABM is a bigger sound, and has more presence in the lows when all set flat, but other than that I find them very similar, though have to admit I get my eq from my Sansamp. The only adjustment I make on the amps is on the ABM I back off on the lows to about 10 o`clock, whereas on the RM I leave all at noon. So to answer Peetys question - sortof - not that much difference between the two, though I`m guessing at higher volumes the ABM will fare better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1487244722' post='3238295'] I`ve got the ABM600 with ABM210/410 cabs, and the RM500 with RM210/115 cabs. Impressions are that the ABM is a bigger sound, and has more presence in the lows when all set flat, but other than that I find them very similar, though have to admit I get my eq from my Sansamp. The only adjustment I make on the amps is on the ABM I back off on the lows to about 10 o`clock, whereas on the RM I leave all at noon. So to answer Peetys question - sortof - not that much difference between the two, though I`m guessing at higher volumes the ABM will fare better. [/quote] Am guessing you are preferring the Ashdown cabs more than the Barefaced cabs you had Lozz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 [quote name='Raggy' timestamp='1487246018' post='3238313'] Am guessing you are preferring the Ashdown cabs more than the Barefaced cabs you had Lozz? [/quote]I have the ABM Neo 4 x8 compared to the 2 12" RM cabs it does have more low end punch but it does weigh 48 lbs & I think it's only me that notices it because I'm standing right next to it . I have the Barefaced super compacts mrk3 then emphasize the 180 frequency that I cut to get the sound I like with the BF cabs using 2 x 12"rm cabs I do very little with the Eq . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1487244722' post='3238295'] I`ve got the ABM600 with ABM210/410 cabs, and the RM500 with RM210/115 cabs. Impressions are that the ABM is a bigger sound, and has more presence in the lows when all set flat, but other than that I find them very similar, though have to admit I get my eq from my Sansamp. The only adjustment I make on the amps is on the ABM I back off on the lows to about 10 o`clock, whereas on the RM I leave all at noon. So to answer Peetys question - sortof - not that much difference between the two, though I`m guessing at higher volumes the ABM will fare better. [/quote] How do you find the sound with the ABM600 & the RM cabs used together ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Very nice Kevin, at home practice levels the sound is pretty much the same as with the ABM cabs, no real eq spikes to give a different flavour so to speak. Raggy - yes I think I do slightly prefer the Ashdowns, they just seem to have a more forceful sound about them, like they`re pushing the sound at you, which playing punk just fits a little better for me. Still think the BFs are great though, and will always recommend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peety Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1487244722' post='3238295'] I`ve got the ABM600 with ABM210/410 cabs, and the RM500 with RM210/115 cabs. Impressions are that the ABM is a bigger sound, and has more presence in the lows when all set flat, but other than that I find them very similar, though have to admit I get my eq from my Sansamp. The only adjustment I make on the amps is on the ABM I back off on the lows to about 10 o`clock, whereas on the RM I leave all at noon. So to answer Peetys question - sortof - not that much difference between the two, though I`m guessing at higher volumes the ABM will fare better. [/quote] Thanks Lozz that's sort of what i guessed i'm in Manchester later so will go and try one out at PMT if it gets anywhere near the ABM then i think i'll probably get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1487321369' post='3238862'] Very nice Kevin, at home practice levels the sound is pretty much the same as with the ABM cabs, no real eq spikes to give a different flavour so to speak. Raggy - yes I think I do slightly prefer the Ashdowns, they just seem to have a more forceful sound about them, like they`re pushing the sound at you, which playing punk just fits a little better for me. Still think the BFs are great though, and will always recommend them. [/quote] Hey mate, how does the desperation compare between the RMs and the BF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I`ve not gigged the RMs yet so can`t really comment, but I`d suspect that the BF would be better on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1487323097' post='3238883'] I`ve not gigged the RMs yet so can`t really comment, but I`d suspect that the BF would be better on this. [/quote] Thanks dude, I look forward to hearing when you have Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I forgot to mention that if you upgrade to the Sica drivers you need to also upgrade the tweeters To eminence AT80s .I've removed mine completely . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28mistertee Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1486486937' post='3232214'] I`ve got a couple of these on the way, a 210 and 115. I know the theories about different speaker sizes but this pair were decently priced, and every other 210/115 set-up I`ve had has worked great so am taking a punt. [/quote] I'm intrigued by these Lozz, be sure to give us a review;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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