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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:53 PM

Yesterday I bought a pair of Purple Chili cabs from Spencer.b off here. Had one before, but could never get a second, so sold my original one and moved on to a pair of the very nice, but not quite so wonderful, Fender Rumbles. So glad to be back with my preferred cab.

Then I realised, along with a recent guitar amp purchase, I've now got the start of a great collection of British made kit:

Shuker bass
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Gordon Smith guitar
Award Session amp

This was nothing intentional, just seems to be all my favourite kit (barring a US Carvin amp) happens to be made in the UK.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:39 PM

I've never played a Wal myself but my favourite ever bass tone was crafted with one (an old JG model I think).

I actually bought a Gordon-Smith guitar blind a year ago, partly because one of my old heroes, Pete Shelley, used to play them. Unfortunately I quite detested the neck and found the tone very uninspiring as well. Not much later I managed to score another guitar (a Hamer) which is absolutely immaculate, and I still haven't been able to shift the Gordon-Smith without making a significant loss (I thought the price was reasonable when I bought it, but that might've been the GAS thinking for me), so now I'm just angry whenever I see it. It was a fairly new build (2005, still made in the Manchester workshop at that point though), so I'm still hoping that if I find an older one at some point, and I have the chance to try it out, it might redeem them in my eyes.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:45 PM

I firmly believe that we are blessed with some of the best luthiers in the world on this side of the pond. Status, GB, Overwater, ACG and our own Andy Rogers to name just a few. All will build you basses that out perform their US counterparts at competitive prices.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:20 PM

 TheGreek, on 11 January 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

I firmly believe that we are blessed with some of the best luthiers in the world on this side of the pond. Status, GB, Overwater, ACG and our own Andy Rogers to name just a few. All will build you basses that out perform their US counterparts at competitive prices.

You might also note how Trace Elliot went down hill when it was sold.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:32 PM

Those particular PC cabs were in my possession for a year or so and I can confirm that they're belters :)

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:36 AM

View PostTheGreek, on 11 January 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

I firmly believe that we are blessed with some of the best luthiers in the world on this side of the pond. Status, GB, Overwater, ACG and our own Andy Rogers to name just a few. All will build you basses that out perform their US counterparts at competitive prices.

You might also note how Trace Elliot went down hill when it was sold.

Couldn't agree more. Everyone who knows me knows how much I love my Wals and Wals in general. Over the last 30 years I've mange to pick up a collections of fine British instruments... a Tony Revell acoustic bass, two Gordon Smith's, a Fylde Gordon Giltrap Signature acoustic, a Brook acoustic and a Fylde bouzouki/octave mandola. All world beating instruments in their own right. And barely the tip of the UK luthiery iceberg.

Just off now to sing Rule Brittania and wave my Union Jack underpants! ;)

Edited by TrevorR, 12 January 2017 - 07:37 AM.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:27 AM

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Just off now to sing Rule Brittania and wave my Union Jack underpants! ;)

That's partly what prompted the post, I'm one of the last people to start any patriotic tub-thumping!
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:37 AM

I'm likely to offer work into the UK e.g. Shuker or Overwater for the custom build that I've been planning rather than getting something made in EE, purely because I think its important to try and support small UK businesses.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:53 PM

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That's partly what prompted the post, I'm one of the last people to start any patriotic tub-thumping!

Yes, it's great to know that the sheer quality of the guitar and bass builders in the U.K. warrants praise and kudos entirely on their own merits... quite irrespective of any spurious nationalistic feeling.

I'm not a gas victim but I've always hankered a little after an Overwater... maybe one day.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:55 PM

View PostZilchWoolham, on 11 January 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

I've never played a Wal myself but my favourite ever bass tone was crafted with one (an old JG model I think).


Oooh, which tune. Do tell...

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 02:32 PM

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Oooh, which tune. Do tell...
All of Jethro Tull's Heavy Horses album, but Journeyman in particular. Recorded in very early 1978. Am I right in assuming the Pro series has the same sound and functionality as their JG counterparts? For a long time the Pro IIE has been my dream bass since I've assumed the JG and Pro only differ superficially.

EDIT: Just realised I've browsed your Wal blog (in awe) before - smashing job!

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:03 PM

I have 2 Overwaters and they are stunning basses that i love. I also have a Jaydee fretless which is good but find the tone a bit limiting compared to some other basses but i guess that's the tone they were famous for back in 80's.
I've never really gave the UK thing any thought altho i did want a UK 6 stringer for my 50th few yrs back and that's when i first met Chris and Martin and the team at that point are were absolutely on the ball and so helpful more like good friends than someone selling me something.
I can't fault the Overwater team and the basses simply speak for themselves.

I am a Fender fan tho and just can't help it. Always had one and always will i think.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:19 PM

Not keen on Americana generally unless actually in the US. Also, I like my pound to go to domestic industry where possible. I'm such an old fossil!

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:44 PM

Smoothound wireless rig would be a good British addition.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:46 PM

Pity there seems to be such a dearth of good quality British made strings...
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:54 PM

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Pity there seems to be such a dearth of good quality British made strings...

Newtone is just up the road from me and will make strings to order quicker than I can get them at high street outlets. Just so's you know like.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:07 PM

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Smoothound wireless rig would be a good British addition.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:43 PM

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Newtone is just up the road from me and will make strings to order quicker than I can get them at high street outlets. Just so's you know like.

http://www.stringsdi...wtone%20Strings


Yeah I was aware of Newtone, however...

There are only 2 sets of their bass strings available on the Stringsdirect site.

Their own website is utter pants, and they only seem to do nickels and I prefer steels myself...

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 05:53 PM

View PostJellyKnees, on 12 January 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

Yeah I was aware of Newtone, however...

There are only 2 sets of their bass strings available on the Stringsdirect site.

Their own website is utter pants, and they only seem to do nickels and I prefer steels myself...

...but thanks anyway :)

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:10 PM

My Shuker P is incredible, so much better than any F I've tried. Love it so much I want a fretless PJ to match :)

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:25 PM

Is there a UK amp manufacturer who make something that sounds like GK or EBS?

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:34 PM

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:56 PM

Forgot, I've got Picato strings on too!!
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:02 PM

Played my mates Overwater recently. What a beautiful instrument in every way. When I have the cash I shall invest in one.

Anyone on here own or played an SWB bass? I like short scale basses and they look nice on the promo pics.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:37 PM

Cor, I just realised no one has mentioned Marshall or Hiwatt yet. Perhaps it was so obvious it flew right over my head. I also have a fondness for the amps of H|H Electronics, even though they're not exactly held in as high esteem as their countrymen, er, -amps. Pete Shelley, Steve Diggle and Steve Garvey all played HH amps on the first Buzzcocks LP. According to Diggle, they all bought them simply because they "liked the look of them, even though they sounded like a f***ing bag of nails being thrown around".

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:59 PM

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I also have a fondness for the amps of H|H Electronics,

I think there are quite a few of us who have a nostalgic soft spot for HH - my first school band, bass and two guitars through a 100 watt PA head, into some sort of home built 15" cab. I'm sure they were nowhere near as good as we like to think :huh:
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:49 PM

I'd love to use a totally British set up.im nearly there!! My Wal's are my go to basses and I'm very happy with my barefaced super12/big twin cabs but the only snag is my tecamp puma 900.its by far the best micro amp I've had so far.does anyone know of a British equivalent in terms of sound/size/quality?? I'd love to 'complete the circle ' so to speak.
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Posted 13 January 2017 - 10:45 AM

Back to HH amps. Stuart Adamson got some fantastic sounds out of his old HH with Big Country. I had an Orange 120 watt amp back in the day and never got it past half way before the volume started to dislodge masonry. Stonework that is, not the men's club.

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 11:32 AM

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 12:03 PM

I'm very surprised nobody's mentioned SeiBass yet. I have an '03 (I think) headless Original.

I also have a Shuker P, and until recently I also had an '84 Wal Custom.

As for guitars, I have a '93 Eggle Berlin Plus and a '13 Rob Williams custom Telecaster. Oh, and a Cornford Hurricane combo.

I'm not consciously pro-British (and have plenty of kit from the US and Japan). It's just the stuff I had when I quit playing for a living but don't have the heart to sell.

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