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#1 gypsyjazzer

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 10:36 PM

Anybody tried a wooden archtop adjustable bridge with a built in piezo pickup on a 335 style guitar--if so--pleasing results?

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:21 AM

Honest question; why do you want to? The area under the bridge is a solid piece of maple so there's no resonance benefit; quite the reverse I would think against the standard setup. I doubt that a piezo would make up for that.

Not that you mustn't do it of course, but just curious as to why you would want to undermine the 335's distinctive tone for the sake of having a piezo in an archtop bridge.

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 11:37 AM

Many thanks for the reply. Good answer regarding the solid top. Hadn't thought of that.

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 01:05 PM

K&K have a demo of their Definity pickup slipped under an ordinary tune-o-matic on a 335 type guitar;
kksound.com/products/definity.php

If you want a piezo sound out of your 335, that might be a lot less work than fitting a wooden bridge. Plus, there was one in the double bass section of the classifieds for a good price.

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 02:20 PM

Just as a follow-up: I have used my 335 at jazz gigs a number of times. It's never going to sound like a 175, but with the right amp and a bit of tinkering I got a perfectly useable jazz tone. Depends how important 'that' sound is for you I guess.
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Posted 28 February 2017 - 07:24 PM

Bought an archtop last year which came with a standard 'two foot' bridge support but topped with a tuneomatic type bridge.

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Swapped the TOM for a compensated wood bridge, about a fiver from China. Less twang, definitely 'woodier' and looser whether heard acoustically or amplified (P90s). So a wood bridge definitely makes something of a difference though - as usual - ymmv.

FWIW Fishman do an archtop piezo bridge for a mere £199.

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 08:05 PM

Devlar where did you get a compensated wood bridge for so cheap?

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:18 PM

View Postskankdelvar, on 28 February 2017 - 07:24 PM, said:

Bought an archtop last year which came with a standard 'two foot' bridge support but topped with a tuneomatic type bridge.

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Swapped the TOM for a compensated wood bridge, about a fiver from China. Less twang, definitely 'woodier' and looser whether heard acoustically or amplified (P90s). So a wood bridge definitely makes something of a difference though - as usual - ymmv.

FWIW Fishman do an archtop piezo bridge for a mere £199.

I did the same thing with my archtop and would agree with the tonal comments. Money well spent I feel.
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 04:16 PM

FWIW I think most of the wooden based archtop bridges are intended to sit rather higher than the stud-mounted tune-o-matic found on an ES335 does. So fitting a floating wooden bridge might require making one from scratch or cutting it down quite extensively.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:19 AM

View PostDanOwens, on 28 February 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Devlar where did you get a compensated wood bridge for so cheap?

Here's one on ebay for £2.89 delivered - though it could take 6 weeks to get to you. Just search 'wood archtop bridge'.

View PostBeer of the Bass, on 01 March 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

FWIW I think most of the wooden based archtop bridges are intended to sit rather higher than the stud-mounted tune-o-matic found on an ES335 does. So fitting a floating wooden bridge might require making one from scratch or cutting it down quite extensively.

Excellent point. I suppose one could always retro-fit nylon saddles to an existing TOM. Apparently they take a lot of the twang out of the proposition.
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 08:34 PM

View PostBeer of the Bass, on 28 February 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

K&K have a demo of their Definity pickup slipped under an ordinary tune-o-matic on a 335 type guitar;
kksound.com/products/definity.php

If you want a piezo sound out of your 335, that might be a lot less work than fitting a wooden bridge. Plus, there was one in the double bass section of the classifieds for a good price.

I use a K&K definity pickup on my selmer style guitar and it's really nice. Great tone.





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