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Pog or sub n up? Or a different octave pedal altogether?


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#1 T-Bay

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 08:10 PM

Just after experiences/ recommendations for an octave pedal. I like the sound of both of these from internet searches but would like real life experiences from people ideally and open to any other suggestions as well.

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 08:24 PM

Octave pedals in general are divided in two significantly different categories, digital (like the ones you mentioned) and analog. First you need to decide what suits you. Analog can only track one note at a time (monophonic) and aren't "clean" - the octave down will have a synthy quality and the octave up will be fuzzy. They are also usually not very good at tracking the lowest notes of the bass, like E or lower. Digital are usually polyphonic so they can track chords, can track lower (of course that depends on the exact pedal) but can sound a bit "fake", especially the octave up. They give you a clean note, but not much like your bass one octave higher, more like an organ... If it's digital that suits you, I think that the two you mentioned should be very nice. I ordered a Mooer Tender Octaver today, but they are hard to find, these have been discontinued after a lawsuit from Electro Harmonix.

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 11:53 PM

I have a Nano POG, which is brilliant! I have heard good things about the TC Sub'n'Up too! There are PLENTY of other options too, like the The EHX Pitch Folk, The Behringer Ultra Shifter/Harmoniser, The Boss Harmoniser or-if you can find it-The Mooer Tender Octaver.
It all depends on (1) What sound you are looking for. (2) How simple or in depth do want the features of your pedal to be. And (3) How much you can spend.
I'm sure you know this already though!
If you can try them all, then do so!
Hope you have fun finding out!

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 06:45 AM

The other major advantage of analog octavers other than tone is that there is no processing delay. Digital octavers usually lag a few ms behind the dry note, I notice it and it bugs me.

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 08:14 AM

View Postdannybuoy, on 06 May 2017 - 06:45 AM, said:

The other major advantage of analog octavers other than tone is that there is no processing delay. Digital octavers usually lag a few ms behind the dry note, I notice it and it bugs me.
Hmmm, I wasn't aware of that. I thought the delay was down to settings/ individual pedals so that is food for thought as I am sure it would bug me as well.

Thanks for all the replies, some great food for thought.

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:15 AM

I found this very recent thread on octave pedals also very helpful. Some really good discussion about the two pedals you mentioned plus a number of others, both analogue and digital - worth checking out:

http://basschat.co.u...e-octave-pedal/

I ended up sticking with my old Boss PS-6 Harmonist, which as well as being a polyphonic octave up and down pedal can provide other harmonic intervals too (such as thirds and fifths).

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:43 AM

View PostAl Krow, on 06 May 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

I found this recent thread on octave pedals also very helpful. Some really good discussion about the two pedals you mentioned plus a number of others, both analogue and digital - worth checking out:

http://basschat.co.u...e-octave-pedal/

I ended up sticking with my old Boss PS-6 Harmonist, which as well as being a polyphonic octave up and down pedal can provide other harmonic intervals too such as (thirds and fifths).
I had read that before I posted this. I guess, as with most things, people have a personal favourite so you end up getting a lot of possibilities which is why I have done some research and (at least think) have narrowed it down to the two above but wanted to remain open to suggestions if there was something amazing I have missed. I am still undecided and think I really need to have a play with some and see what I like best. As always on here, the experience of the members is immense and helps narrow down the options and I much prefer to hear reviews from people who use them than the people who make them!

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Posted 06 May 2017 - 10:45 AM

I ABed the ehx nanoPOG and pitchfork at a local music shop. Both sounded and tracked great (to my ears), even with chords on a 5er that had open E or B notes.
I ended up going with the pitchfork mainly because of utility. Between the two, just go for the one with the controls you like.
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 11:15 PM

I use an OC2 and a Density Hulk.
Gonna cop a Bass Whammy for my polyphony. I found the latency on the POGs too annoying to tell the truth but I STUPIDLY sold my Whammy and NEED another one.

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:46 PM

I use a pitchfactor at the moment which is great but I did have great success using a line 6 m5 and using the 'bass octave' sound worked really well and you get all the other noises too!
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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:15 PM

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:47 PM

A bit in your face for what I want it to do but some interesting sounds.

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:33 PM

If you want to go analog then I'll wholeheartedly recommend an Aguilar Octamizer. The breadth of sounds you can get with the filter knobs is sublime - goes from smooth and dubby to gnarly and synthy.
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