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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:23 PM

I have serious GAS for a moog right now, either a sub fatty or a sub 37. I'm wondering if any fellow basschatters have bought a moog then regretted it / not used it as much as they thought they would?

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:27 PM

I'd love one. Would suit my composing needs.When you get one let us know how yoi get on.
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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:49 PM

go for a Sub37, worth the extra cash and will keep its value better. IMO 2 octave keyboard of the SubPhatty is too restrictive. Oscillators on the 37 are supposed to be more stable.

I had a Little Phatty for a few years and really enjoyed owning it, and exploring sound. Ultimately sold it, as I could get close enough via Arturia's minimoog emulation going into a Moogerfooger analogue filter and needed the space / cash :-)
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Posted 31 May 2017 - 05:54 PM

My Moog regret was selling my Moog Prodigy for the princely sum of £30 in 1988! It still stings even to this day.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:58 PM

I have a Sub Phatty, and I rarely miss the extra keys of the 37. Love mine.
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Posted 02 June 2017 - 05:45 AM

I've got a friend who's into purely analogue synths. He's went through loads, buying & then selling on if it's not what he was hoping.
3 synths that have remained in his arsenal since I've known him (about 4-5 years) are the AnalogKeys, Teenage Engineering OP1 (He sold his first one & then a month later went & bought another, as he found he missed it) & a Moog Phatty. I've played about with his synths quite a few times & just looove the Phatty.

I need to go & see him soon as he's sold some other synths & got a couple of new ones. One being a Prophet 12. :D

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:48 PM

View Postsammybee, on 31 May 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

My Moog regret was selling my Moog Prodigy for the princely sum of £30 in 1988! It still stings even to this day.
Ouch!

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:19 PM

I was just browsing around for a Little Phatty Stage II only this afternoon having been impressed at the sounds that Michael League was getting out of his with Snarky Puppy.

It appears they don't make them any more. Does anyone know the reason for this?

I'm very much a Moog newbie, so if there is a viable/obvious Moog alternative, what would it be?

I would be using it for synth driven pop covers. There a lot songs I have to play that are quite obviously synth on the original recording, so why not dip a toe in?

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:21 PM

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 06:01 AM

View Posthiram.k.hackenbacker, on 20 June 2017 - 09:19 PM, said:

I'm very much a Moog newbie, so if there is a viable/obvious Moog alternative, what would it be?
VST version, Native Instruments Monark. A/B'd it next to a Phatty & it's almost identical. The cut off position is slightly brighter on the Phatty, meaning you have to turn the cut off dial up a touch further on the Monark to get the same sound.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 06:32 AM

View PostCameronJ, on 20 June 2017 - 10:21 PM, said:

There's one for sale in the classifieds!
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D'oh! Thanks 😀

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 06:32 AM

View Postxgsjx, on 21 June 2017 - 06:01 AM, said:

VST version, Native Instruments Monark. A/B'd it next to a Phatty & it's almost identical. The cut off position is slightly brighter on the Phatty, meaning you have to turn the cut off dial up a touch further on the Monark to get the same sound.

Noted and I thank you.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:05 AM

So, the Sub Phatty's seem readily available. I've watched a few demo's and like what I've heard.

I think I need to go and hear one for myself 😀

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:41 AM

Synth now, repent later.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 12:27 PM

View Postxgsjx, on 21 June 2017 - 06:01 AM, said:

VST version, Native Instruments Monark. A/B'd it next to a Phatty & it's almost identical. The cut off position is slightly brighter on the Phatty, meaning you have to turn the cut off dial up a touch further on the Monark to get the same sound.
I've worked with some VSTs before I got my Phatty and it may sound similar (or identical) but still it feels different. I like the "offline" feel of a real synth. When I played a Minimoog reissue...My oh my.
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Posted 24 June 2017 - 05:25 AM

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I've worked with some VSTs before I got my Phatty and it may sound similar (or identical) but still it feels different. I like the "offline" feel of a real synth. When I played a Minimoog reissue...My oh my.
I know exactly what you mean. Even though the NI S88 is a great remote keyboard & the ribbons for pitch & mod are fantastic, it's not a Moog.
I've played my mates Phatty a few times & it's just such an expressive instrument. One hand on the keys, the other on the dials.
I've hankered for a voyager for some time, but I couldn't justify buying one when there's so many other things I need. :lol:

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Posted 24 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

I'd get a Model D reissue waaaaaay before a Voyager.
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 06:45 PM

View PostBassAgent, on 24 June 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

I'd get a Model D reissue waaaaaay before a Voyager.

Unless it was strictly for studio use, I'd take patch memories over any supposed superiority of sound. As someone who struggled using non-programmable synths in the early 80s, I have no time for even simple synths that don't have programmable memories for the sounds.

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 07:00 PM

View PostBigRedX, on 26 June 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:



Unless it was strictly for studio use, I'd take patch memories over any supposed superiority of sound. As someone who struggled using non-programmable synths in the early 80s, I have no time for even simple synths that don't have programmable memories for the sounds.

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 04:52 PM

View PostBigRedX, on 26 June 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

Unless it was strictly for studio use, I'd take patch memories over any supposed superiority of sound. As someone who struggled using non-programmable synths in the early 80s, I have no time for even simple synths that don't have programmable memories for the sounds.
I can see your point, which is one of the main reasons I went for the Sub Phatty and not for e.g. the Minitaur. The Minitaur has presets but you can't see which one you're using. But I've fiddled with both the Voyager and the Model D, and I find the knob layout of the Model D way easier to understand.
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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:16 PM

my college has Moog lil Phatty, Moog Voyager, Moog Theremin and the whole set of moogerfoogers and we have no regret in buying any of them they get used daily for hours sometimes and sound fantastic and just keep on going (the voyager is around 15 years old) they truly are some fantastic gear. were eyeing up a minitaur and a sub phatty for next year!
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Posted 28 June 2017 - 11:04 PM

Your college?! What college is that? Sounds incredible.
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Posted 29 June 2017 - 07:54 PM

If anyone was thinking of a Model D best get one now.

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 09:59 AM

I bought a Novation K-Station recently and it's brilliant. Big phat pharty sounds and 70s-soundalike synthy goodness. And programmable memories. I still regret selling my old Roland SH-09 back in the day, but practically speaking the K is the superior instrument in every way.

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Posted 06 July 2017 - 10:13 AM

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Your college?! What college is that? Sounds incredible.

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 06:57 PM

 Rich, on 30 June 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

I bought a Novation K-Station recently and it's brilliant. Big phat pharty sounds and 70s-soundalike synthy goodness. And programmable memories. I still regret selling my old Roland SH-09 back in the day, but practically speaking the K is the superior instrument in every way.

...not to mention the polyphony! I've had a K-Station for a few years and it is indeed a lovely thing. Still tempted by the new Novation Peak though....maybe one day I'll trade up, but I'm in no hurry :)
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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:22 PM

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...not to mention the polyphony! I've had a K-Station for a few years and it is indeed a lovely thing. Still tempted by the new Novation Peak though....maybe one day I'll trade up, but I'm in no hurry :)

Ooh the peak looks amazing. Too much dough for me to be spending though, and if I did have that kind of cash to spare I'd probably go for something like a Roland JD-XA since it at least has a keyboard attached!
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 06:27 AM

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I can see your point, which is one of the main reasons I went for the Sub Phatty and not for e.g. the Minitaur. The Minitaur has presets but you can't see which one you're using. But I've fiddled with both the Voyager and the Model D, and I find the knob layout of the Model D way easier to understand.
I've got a Minitaur; it is a little bit one-dimensional and is limited to the lower octaves, but what it does is great.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:59 PM

Do you use the presets?
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Posted 05 August 2017 - 04:27 PM

I've come into ownership of a Moog Rogue by default. One of my bandmates was giving it to our producer as a freebie, and I borrowed it for a while. Producer now doesn't want it, so I now have a Rogue. Quite a fun little thing to use, so no regrets here!





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