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Posted 25 July 2017 - 07:15 AM

I'm in the market for a 5 string and whilst out looking, tried a Sterling 4 in my local shop. I was amazed at how good this felt and sounded, even side by side with a Stingray!

Trouble is, can I find a 5H anywhere? Not a chance. I'm struggling to find any shop selling them at all. Are they discontinued or so deeply unpopular that they're not worth stocking?

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 07:22 AM

Snap! I don't 'do' Musicman basses but I tried the Sterling as a random pick in a guitar shop (PMT in Newcastle) last week and was genuinely impressed.

They had the 5 hanging next to it, but I didn't try it (even though I usually play fivers) because the string spacing was too narrow for my taste.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 09:14 AM

I specifically ordered in a Sterling 5 HS about 5 years ago, maybe less, and it's a lovely instrument.

Unfortunately due to normal price rises, then excessive price rises, then the £ issue, they are no doubt around £2000 for a standard 5H now.

They can definitely order you one at your spec.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:36 AM

Ouch! is that why they're not so popular? Or are they not that good a bass?

Can you recommend somewhere good to order through?


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:46 AM

Pro Music Tools in Germany has a few. Prices are on the high side. No affiliation, never bought something there.

https://www.promusic...man/sterling-5/

Sterling basses aren't as popular because every bassplayer automatically thinks Stingray when you mention Music Man. At least they still make the Sterling model, they must sell enough of them to keep it in production. But the Stingray outsells it by a huge margin. The Sabre Classic had a short-lived reintroduction but that one is gone (again) due to lack of sales. The Sterling, Sabre and Stingray are all fantastic basses. I always wanted "that MusicMan sound", I had never even touched let alone played a MusicMan bass. I bought the sleeker Sterling 4H online. It's everything I hoped for, a fantastic bass.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:35 AM

Or you could go way cheaper:

https://www.pmtonlin...wood-trans-blue
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:52 AM

Even cheaper than that:

https://nl.aliexpres...sOrigTitle=true
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:59 AM

View PostHappy Jack, on 25 July 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

Or you could go way cheaper:

https://www.pmtonlin...wood-trans-blue

That hasn't got the US Sterling dimensions or features though.

They do/did an SB14 so essentially a Sterling by Sterling version! Afaik they never made a five string version.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 12:01 PM

There's no substitute for the real thing...

SB14 has been discontinued, lack of sales. No 5 string version of that one was ever made AFAIK.

Edited by Treb, 25 July 2017 - 12:02 PM.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:11 PM

Not in any way related to the seller. I had my eyes on this on ebay (bass is from US) since it was put up.

http://www.ebay.co.u...koAAOSw1BlZXm~2

It might save you a couple of quid and a waiting time.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:17 PM

View PostTreb, on 25 July 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

There's no substitute for the real thing...


At least I'll get my washing done.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:33 PM

Gosh looks like I'll definitely be holding onto all of mine. Pricing has gone crazy. I'd never be able to replace them without spending about 40% more.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:45 PM

View PostTreb, on 25 July 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

. I bought the sleeker Sterling 4H online. It's everything I hoped for, a fantastic bass.

I loved the Sabre too. it was actually just playing the 4 string Sterling that got me thinking about the 5er because it felt so good to play.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:46 PM

View PostMusicman20, on 25 July 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

Gosh looks like I'll definitely be holding onto all of mine. Pricing has gone crazy. I'd never be able to replace them without spending about 40% more.

I think you may own a large part of the UKs quota!

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:01 PM

View PostTreb, on 25 July 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

There's no substitute for the real thing...

SB14 has been discontinued, lack of sales. No 5 string version of that one was ever made AFAIK.

There's one of these for sale on Facebook Bass Players Market UK: £400 :o can't see it sticking around for too long
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:14 PM

I don't do no stinkin' Facebook but 400 imperial credits of the realm doesn't sound bad even if you have take the condition of said item into account.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:21 PM

View PostMusicman20, on 25 July 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

Gosh looks like I'll definitely be holding onto all of mine. Pricing has gone crazy. I'd never be able to replace them without spending about 40% more.

In may of 2015 I paid €1640 for my Sterling, at the same shop a bog standard Stingray (if there ever was one) was going for €1590. No Sterlings at the shop now but the remaining Stingray's have gone up in price: €1800-1850.
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:22 PM

The SB14 is mine and was up here too. Just click the link in my sig.; the bass is in very nice condition.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:23 PM

View PostHappy Jack, on 25 July 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

At least I'll get my washing done.

Ahh, choices choices... Stink to high heaven or own a Stingray. :unsure:
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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:43 PM

https://www.gumtree....ase./1256401090

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 09:21 AM

Simple answer - not as many around as Stingrays and those who have them don't sell them.

An alternative is a 92 to 08 SR5. Same electronics and neck as the ST5 - slightly bigger body and different pickguard. Lots of these around and it's possible to find 8.5 lbs ones - more usually 10 lbs.

These are awesome basses - I have an 03 SR5 in natural - a little heavy but an absolute tone monster - the most resonant body of any bass I've played.

Best of luck searching for an ST5 - you could always order a new one - if it was me I'd go for an HS - adding the single coil to the single pick up Sterling sound adds significant bottom end and warmth to the sound when desired, gives a single coil option and you still get the single humbucker Magic as well when wanted.

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 10:33 AM

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An alternative is a 92 to 08 SR5. Same electronics and neck as the ST5 - slightly bigger body and different pickguard. Lots of these around and it's possible to find 8.5 lbs ones - more usually 10 lbs.

You are so right. The early Stingray 5's had ceramic pickups instead of alnico ones.
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Posted 26 July 2017 - 02:44 PM

I fruitlessly looked for one for years back when I was playing 5ers, I hope you have better luck.

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 04:27 PM

I've got one too :D


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:19 AM

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I think you may own a large part of the UKs quota!

I've definitely got a few quirky spec Musicman instruments. However, in this climate I would not build up such a collection.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:28 AM

I can also agree that if you want a Sterling 5, and you have to order, you may as well get the HS.

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:39 PM

View PostMusicman20, on 27 July 2017 - 08:28 AM, said:

I can also agree that if you want a Sterling 5, and you have to order, you may as well get the HS.

Is the "H" pickup in the same position in a HS configuration as in a standard H or is it moved closer to the bridge to accommodate the addition of the single coil pickup in the neck position?

By the way, I've got a Sterling 4H and it is indeed a wonderful thing. I also have a Spector Euro 5LX and at some point I might even consider swapping that for a Sterling 5 stringer.

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:31 PM

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Is the "H" pickup in the same position in a HS configuration as in a standard H or is it moved closer to the bridge to accommodate the addition of the single coil pickup in the neck position?

By the way, I've got a Sterling 4H and it is indeed a wonderful thing. I also have a Spector Euro 5LX and at some point I might even consider swapping that for a Sterling 5 stringer.

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 08:01 AM

I bought a brand new 2010 Ray5 to avoid the ceramic pickup as I wanted the normal Ray4 tone but with a B string, then I swapped my Ray4 for a 2004 Ray5 with the ceramic pickup and I love it! I then sold my pre EB Rays and got a Classic5 to complete the set 2EQ, 3 EQ, ceramic and Alnico, all 5 strings :D
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Posted 29 July 2017 - 08:14 AM

I have a Sterling 5er. Marvellous thing and weighs around 8.5lbs. I had Andyjr1515 put a P pickup in the sweet spot (with reversed treble side), routed out a little wood under the new pickguard to offset the extra weight - it still weighs around 8.5lbs. And, importantly, it is black with a maple neck, too! :)





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