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Posted 10 August 2017 - 04:30 PM

Tried out a couple of basses in a Dublin music shop recently. The amp was a Hartke TX600 and a Hartke speaker [it might have been a 1*12" or a 1*15"]. Anyway the sound was great, not that my playing was all that good, not sure if the Squier PJ or Fender Mex or a combination of all that got my juices flowing. But I don't remember reading much about Hartke. Anyone here got any experience with this kit or should I just stick with my Markbass MiniMark?

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:41 PM

My old school American 410 is still going strong, despite living in one of the toughest musical environments known to man- the secondary school classroom. The amp is a 1400 series head, basically the unit from the old kickback combo. Just about clinging on. If the new stuff is anything like my kit it's both robust sound wise and in endurance.
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:59 PM

One of my best rigs was a Hartke 7000 head running in bi-amp mode, with 215XL and 4.5XL cabs. wish they still made the 7000.
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:33 PM

I had a Hartke LH1000 and Hydrive 410s

Loved the amp, only moved on as it was heavy! As were the speakers but they were not too bad.

Thin the TX600 is sadly underpowered, but if you don't mind the weight the older amps are really good value especially on second hand market

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:36 PM

My HA3500 is still easily my favourite sounding amp. I love having the graphic. I'ts only the weight that makes it my second amp for gigging.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 07:46 AM

Yes! Had a kickback with fifteen inch speaker, excellent amp and they're great value on the second hand market! Not sure about their new stuff though.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:38 AM

Had an LH500 with 2 Trace Elliot compact 15's, great for Punk.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:59 AM

I've had an LH500, HA3000, 410XL and 115 and all very good. Especially liked the LH500 for its volume and EQ simplicity.
Moved them all on only for weight reasons.

I was looking forward to the TX600 coming out but as has already been mentioned it's way underpowered so I opted for a GK MB500 instead.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:07 AM

I had a HA3500 for years, played gigs from 2-2000 people and loved it. I only changed to a smaller & lighter amp recently to match my downsizing of main gigging cab (4x10 > 2x12).
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:44 AM

Hartke haven't done anything decent for a decade. It's a tragedy that despite lots of people liking the LH series (I hate them) their best and is still the HA5500 and that is a 20 year old design. The kilo isn't great and unreliable if reports are to be believed and the TX600 is so underpowered as to be laughable. They seriously have to get their act together as the brand has went downhill.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:33 AM

Love Hartke stuff, great bang for the buck.
My favourite is the HA3500 - reliable great sounding amp. I replaced an SVT3pro with one
and it blew the Ampeg away , and for around half the price too.
Not had many Hartke cabs, for me not as strong as the amps though.

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 01:35 PM

I had a Kilo & while it sounded immense, sadly it didn't do so for long.
Had it repaired' then a couple of gigs later it died again.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:11 PM

 casapete, on 11 August 2017 - 11:33 AM, said:

Love Hartke stuff, great bang for the buck.
My favourite is the HA3500 - reliable great sounding amp. I replaced an SVT3pro with one
and it blew the Ampeg away , and for around half the price too.
Not had many Hartke cabs, for me not as strong as the amps though.

As an owner of an LH500 head and a former owner of a HA3500 head and a Transporter 4x10" cab, I second this. The cab was a bit underwhelming (Though they were the second string version of Hartke's top range XL cabs, which are now discontinued!), but the amps are brilliant!

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:40 PM

HA3500 is very underrated in my opinion and the xl4.5 is a great sounding cab if unbearably heavy.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:49 PM

I've got a really low budget Hartke set up. A HA2500 and a VX115. They cost me £260 together brand new from PMT a few months ago.

Done a few gigs now with them including an outdoor festival. Sounds great!

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:08 AM

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:56 AM

I bought a LH500 recently as part of PMT`s blow out for £200. I have played a few gigs with it through a Ashdown ABM 2x10 cab and am well pleased with it. Nice and simple eq and dead easy to get a good sound out of quickly. Easily loud enough for any pub gig.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 02:26 PM

I had an HA4000 with XL210 & 115 cabs. Really good set-up, incredibly versatile. Sold it for a Marshall set-up as was in a rock band, but truth be told the Hartke was better.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:00 PM

Mixed. I bought an LH500 and 2 x 210 X cabs in a 'new band' emergency about a year ago. I needed to gig in less than a week and practically, this was all I could afford that would give me enough stage volume and look vaguely credible. A year / 25 odd gigs down the line I think the amp is a fairly solid - albeit heavy - product but it has a pretty obvious and major failings in the effects loop. The 210 XL cabs are (and feel) pretty cheap and don't really deliver a convincing low end. The low-end roll off is quite severe and if I had money to spend, I'd replace these with something more sensitive before the head. For 'cheap' gear, it's fine though.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:38 PM

Had a HA2000 (200w) for years. Great sound, never let me down and loud.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:34 AM

I had an LH500 head with a Hydrive 410 cab for about 5 years. Sounded great & never let me down once. Only moved them on for the lighter rig I've got now.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:38 AM

 interpol52, on 11 August 2017 - 09:49 PM, said:

I've got a really low budget Hartke set up. A HA2500 and a VX115. ... Sounds great!

Sounds like an awesome set up! I hope you can get a 2nd 15" or matching VX210 for a nice mini stack to get the full 4 ohms out of the HA2500!

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 12:56 PM

 indiegrungesound, on 13 August 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:



Sounds like an awesome set up! I hope you can get a 2nd 15" or matching VX210 for a nice mini stack to get the full 4 ohms out of the HA2500!

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Thanks! I might add another cab soon, to be honest though its plenty loud enough for my needs at the moment. Even at the outdoor gig it gave plenty of headroom with the PA support.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:43 PM

I don't understand how the TX600 can be deemed underpowered. The spec is 600 Watts at 4 Ohms, 400 Watts at 8 Ohms. If the amp can output that many watts, surely it is the speaker(s) that are letting the side down.

Confused :yarr:

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:16 PM

View PostRocker, on 10 August 2017 - 04:30 PM, said:

Tried out a couple of basses in a Dublin music shop recently. The amp was a Hartke TX600 and a Hartke speaker [it might have been a 1*12" or a 1*15"]. Anyway the sound was great, not that my playing was all that good, not sure if the Squier PJ or Fender Mex or a combination of all that got my juices flowing. But I don't remember reading much about Hartke. Anyone here got any experience with this kit or should I just stick with my Markbass MiniMark?

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Depends on what you want to/are doing? I use my Minimark ( assume you mean the 2X8 250 watt combo and not the Micromark) as a 1 stop solution for small gigs and home practice. For larger gigs I use my CMD121P, sometimes with a NYC12" cab in a large venue.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:58 PM

Rocker

Unfortunately manufacturers quite lots of figures which are 'correct' but not practical.

It may pump out 600w at a peak, but unfortunately in the real world you need RMS which is what it will pop out continuously.

In a small burst peak, it may reach 600w, but this may be for a second or so, when actually it's continuous power put out is probably 2-300w, hence that what it sounds like.

This reported 'undepowering' is universal across many people's use.
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 07:06 PM

 interpol52, on 14 August 2017 - 12:56 PM, said:


Thanks!... My avatar and username are nods to two of my all time favourite bands. I love the Husker Du logo.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 07:13 AM

 Rocker, on 14 August 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

I don't understand how the TX600 can be deemed underpowered. The spec is 600 Watts at 4 Ohms, 400 Watts at 8 Ohms. If the amp can output that many watts, surely it is the speaker(s) that are letting the side down.

Confused :yarr:

It's because much like TC Electronic before them, Hartke have cooked the books. I had a shot of one a few weeks ago and it was laughable how low the output was. I would have said it was 300w at 4 ohms. Even at that I felt it was straining.

I don't like the LH series because the EQ is rubbish, but there can be no mistake about the power of them. They're devastatingly loud. Even my own HA5500 will cause people to lose their fillings when cranked. The TX600 to my ears isn't even as loud as an HA2000.
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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:16 PM

View Postyorks5stringer, on 14 August 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

Depends on what you want to/are doing? I use my Minimark ( assume you mean the 2X8 250 watt combo and not the Micromark) as a 1 stop solution for small gigs and home practice. For larger gigs I use my CMD121P, sometimes with a NYC12" cab in a large venue.
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Good question. Firstly my Minimark is the 2*8 combo you mentioned. It is a great sounding little [and light] box. When I tried out the basses in the shop it was through Hartke kit and that too sounded great. So I wanted to get the lowdown, the opinions of the experts here, on Hartke. It is most likely that I will keep the Minimark and add an external speaker to give more volume. An 8 Ohm 15" speaker might be the solution as might a 4*10" cabinet [though it might be heavy, as would the 15" speaker cabinet]

Thanks Cuzzie for your clarification on the output power. It is a pity about the TX600 as it looks so good with the built in handle, and seems to be well put together.

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 06:37 PM

We used to play at a venue that provided the backline - a LH1000 with 4x10 and 1x15 cabs. After the second gig I took my own Fender Rumble V3 500 combo - much better sound IMHO. I didn't get on with the Hartke gear
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