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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:29 AM

This has happened to us on a few occasions inc. last night.

We operate an "honesty is the best policy" policy and hand it back.

Anyone just pocket it ?

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:36 AM

On the few occasions it has happened I have questioned it with the payer and been told it's a bonus for doing a good job.
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:53 AM

View PostFinnDave, on 10 September 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

On the few occasions it has happened I have questioned it with the payer and been told it's a bonus for doing a good job.

That's why we mention it....its nice to have that kind of feedback!!
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:53 AM

If it's a mistake, you offer it back; if it's deliberate you say 'Thank you'. :mellow:
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:55 AM

 Les, on 10 September 2017 - 08:29 AM, said:


We operate an "honesty is the best policy" policy and hand it back.


That's the right thing to do. Karma will catch up with you otherwise.

It's never happened to us, although we did get paid for a charity gig recently which we weren't expecting. We just handed it back to the charity.
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:59 AM

All the above.
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:59 AM

View PostFinnDave, on 10 September 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

On the few occasions it has happened I have questioned it with the payer and been told it's a bonus for doing a good job.

Same , question it and keep it if it's intended
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:14 AM

We've always handed it back as well.

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:35 AM

One venue we play at, the new manager asked every band at the end of the evening "...and how much was it you get?" - he knew full well. One band tried to make out it was more than he had in his little black book. It didn't end well for them. We operate on an "honesty is the best policy". We were recently given an extra £50 at one venue, and the girly smiled sweetly and said "I'v been told to give you extra because you're one of the best bands we have and we really enjoy it". Not bad for a blues band in a rowdy Saturday night 20 something party pub, and it does make you feel good. We're back there in the middle of December - should be a monster!

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:45 AM

yes we've been given bonuses before which is not the same thing.
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:48 AM

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:05 AM

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:10 AM

Honesty is definitely the best policy, especially if you want to be rebooked. And even if you don't care about the venue, in most cases your reputation will precede you. Many landlords move around pubs in the area, especially if the pubs are part of the same chain, and they will remember the band, for good or for bad. :)

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:12 AM

We play at a venue where we get money knocked off to pay the sound engineer and the person, on the door, taking the money. The owner of the bar was on his hols and the responsibility, for paying us at the end of the night, was given to a barman.

He was unaware of the arrangement we had with the owner and just gave me all the ticket money, which included the money for the ticket person and the sound engineer.

I don't usually collect the money, it's the guitarist who does it, and was unaware of the agreed payment arrangements. So I was firstly astounded at how much the barman gave me and secondly, immediately came to the conclusion, that the guitarist had, previously, been pocketing the difference,between what he gave us at the end of the night, and what the bar owner was actually paying us.

When the guitarist explained the situation, we had to own up, and give a 3rd of the money back.

Does any other band on Basschat have this weird arrangement, where they have to pay the venue's sound engineer and ticket person out of their cut of the ticket money?

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:46 AM

hand it back.you never know if its a test of honesty.

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:59 AM

We're a good lot us bass players aren't we?

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 12:00 PM

 gjones, on 10 September 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

Does any other band on Basschat have this weird arrangement, where they have to pay the venue's sound engineer and ticket person out of their cut of the ticket money?

Years ago I played at a place where you had to pay to hire the house pa which I thought wasnt right but if you have to set it all up, get levels right for different bands on a weekly basis you'd want paying for it.
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 01:07 PM

View Postbobbytodd, on 10 September 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

hand it back.you never know if its a test of honesty.

Why the need to test the honesty of a bunch of musicians? The guv' is paying them, they are not helping themselves to the wages from the till.
They are paid to provide music/entertainment , not look after the customers of 'Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd'. :D
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

I'm still trying to get over the shock that you get paid for gigs, let alone overpaid! :yarr:

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

View Postbobbytodd, on 10 September 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

hand it back.you never know if its a test of honesty.

I'm not sure that really happens
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 02:25 PM

(grin) I joined a band at the same time as the drummer retired. He had been responsible for doing most of the booking.

Turned out he had been pocketing " a commission" from any cash gigs - usually an extra £50 in his pocket that we didn't know about.

....and then the cheeky bugger asked if he could rejoin the band about 6 months later!

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 03:14 PM

The few times it has happened it has been because it has been a great night and the landlord is happy. I would always query it though.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 03:37 PM

We never get paid and we travel a bit too :(
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 04:41 PM

It's never happened, but if it did I would point it out straightaway.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:10 AM

Ask about it, if it was a mistake give it back.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:12 AM

 ivansc, on 10 September 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

(grin) I joined a band at the same time as the drummer retired. He had been responsible for doing most of the booking.

Turned out he had been pocketing " a commission" from any cash gigs - usually an extra £50 in his pocket that we didn't know about.

....and then the cheeky bugger asked if he could rejoin the band about 6 months later!

This can also happen with dishonest agencies. Quoting one amount , collecting another and taking their % plus a little extra.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:49 AM

View Postbobbytodd, on 10 September 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

hand it back.you never know if its a test of honesty.

This. And if you're told it's a bonus/tip, smile and say thank you. Either way, you win as your reputation benefits.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:10 PM

At my gig last Sunday afternoon we were paid at the end of the first set by someone, I don't know who she was, but she seemed at the time to be in charge. Then at the end of the gig the owner's son came up and offered us the same again, unaware that we'd already been paid. We just explained that we'd already been paid, it's a residency gig that we'd hate to lose, but none of us would dream of anything dishonest anyway.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:52 AM

never happened in 38 years,

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 06:56 AM

Its always far more interesting when you get underpaid at a gig...





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