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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:12 AM

The Smiths came to my mind first, followed by Biffy Clyro. A bit unfair but they keep headlining festivals I love and I don't understand why!!!!!

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:12 AM

View Postthodrik, on 12 September 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

I know that this isn't something you should admit on a bass guitar forum, but I have never enjoyed listening to Rush and I never will.

Terrific musicianship but I just can't stand the sound of Geddy's voice.

I feel exactly the same way about Black Sabbath.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

I've been trawling the musicians wanted ads for a side project over the last couple of weeks. My conclusion is that most people, including (or even especially) musicians are incredibly narrow minded and dismissive of anything that sounds remotely different to what they already like and have chosen to identify with. It's almost as if having a different view of music represents a threat to their personality. Over-rated is often as not just a lazy term for not liking something that somebody else does, but not being prepared or able to articulate why. I've recently heard people describe both Kraftwerk and The Beatles as over-rated. The former effectively invented the idea of electronic music as pop music, the latter were one of the defining cultural artefacts of the late 20th Century. There are many bands I can't stand, but calling them over-rated doesn't explain anything. It's just a way of not thinking.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:22 AM

For me its the Boyband or Girlband thing that i just don't get. Some of them will have maybe one person that is actually talented ie Gary Barlow but rest of the band are stage fillers. Would they survive as solo artists, probably not IMHO.

Some of the other bands mentioned i'm not a fan of altho they had occasional songs i liked.

Was never a huge fan of Stones either but when i hear their popular songs anywhere i kinda enjoy the odd song but couldn't listen to an album of them.
Same with Beatles. Heard a tribute band at a mates 60th and was surprised how much i enjoyed them and new all the songs too. And they were my first single at age 3 All My Loving :)

Even The Smiths i would like the occasional single but albus would be a NO NO.

Death Metal thing i've never really got either but i think that is probably just an age thing.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:27 AM

I'll go with Oasis. I could quite easily ignore the banal music and they'd blend seamlessly into the background, but the arrogance and general sneering unpleasantness unfortunately keeps them on the radar.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:28 AM

Here's an interesting challenge - can anyone name a band that all of basschat will agree are NOT overrated?

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:30 AM

Red Hot Chili Peppers - I sort of like them because I remember a few good tunes, on closer inspection though they don't seem to have much to them really. Flea is great, wish I could do that, but..

Not helped by the one time I saw them, they came across as a jam band with a disinterested singer (tbh the crowd were pretty disinterested after a while too.)

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:39 AM

Reading through the comments here, I'd concur with Timmo and PaulWarning...it really is a kind of IMHO type of thing and certainly one man's overrated is another man's underrated. It's all so subjective. I don't know whether being overrated comes into it really, I mean there's no doubting that the bands I mention below know their sh*t, but they are abhorrent to me on so many levels.

I used to have these girlish crushes on dozens of bands but as soon as (metaphorically) Teresa from the typing pool mentions them in passing or says, 'Ooh, I really like <insert bandname here>', I'd draw a line under proceedings and make a mental note to move the band to my sh*t list. It really was as black and white as that...you knew when it was time to stop listening to them because they'd moved from your little secret to (shudder) the mainstream. There's a ramp of festival-pleaser bands that are a complete turn-off for me, with the top of list being comprised of Radiohead, Coldplay, RHCP, U2 and Muse. I look at the bills for Reading and Glastonbury and just go, 'Kasabian? Friday night headliner? Really?'
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:30 AM

View PostPhil Adams, on 13 September 2017 - 06:23 AM, said:

I just dont get Bruce either. Could someone explain please?
Great performer, songwriter and all round good bloke agreed, but legend?? How?? I read his biography and enjoyed it and it took me a bit closer to him, but legend`???

Blimey, tough crowd!
An amazing body of work over 45 years, universally acclaimed live shows, killer band , supporter of human rights - just for starters.

For me, Springsteen carried on the legacy of Chuck Berry - songs people could easily relate to about girls, cars, the American Dream etc.
But he also matured into so much more, his prolific songwriting skills developing with each album without ever making a duffer IMO.
I've been fortunate to see him perform a few times, and he remains the best live act I've ever seen. Always delivers, with a wry sense
of humour that complements his more 'serious' material perfectly.

Fully understand if you don't like him, but overrated? Nah...........

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:34 AM

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:40 AM

Oasis. After the first album everything else was a re hash of same. And the first album was just a Beatles cover job anyway.

The Smiths. Bloody hell did Morrisey drone on, usually using only two notes. He certainly made me miserable.

Kiss. Dress up like hard heavy rockers....then sing pop songs.

The Doors. Lounge Jazz, played badly, and a front man who couldnt carry a song in a bucket.

Guns and Roses. Simply re hashing the old 70s rock sound and lifestyle, and doing it so badly. Has anyone in music a more annoying voice than Mr. Rose?

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:49 AM

From some of the criteria in previous posts I'd include the Foo Fighters.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:55 AM

Heinz, Cadburys...

Oops, I thought it said "brands".

Isn't being overrated one of the main attractions of being in a band?
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:22 AM

I agree with nearly all the suggested.

Mid American Rock - the whole genre - Eagles included...and all the bands that are remembered for one crappy song from the 70s which appear on every "Greatest Rock Hits" album which end up in the £5 section in your local Supermarket.

Dare I suggest Bob Marley?

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:24 AM

View Postcasapete, on 13 September 2017 - 10:30 AM, said:

Blimey, tough crowd!
An amazing body of work over 45 years, universally acclaimed live shows, killer band , supporter of human rights - just for starters.

For me, Springsteen carried on the legacy of Chuck Berry - songs people could easily relate to about girls, cars, the American Dream etc.
But he also matured into so much more, his prolific songwriting skills developing with each album without ever making a duffer IMO.
I've been fortunate to see him perform a few times, and he remains the best live act I've ever seen. Always delivers, with a wry sense
of humour that complements his more 'serious' material perfectly.

Fully understand if you don't like him, but overrated? Nah...........

Thanks for that. I didn't actually say I didn't like him, I guess I just don't understand.
I'll give you and example, and this is purely my take on it.
A concert with Roy Orbison, obviously about 20 years ago coz he's dead now.
Bruce is onstage with many other notable musicians, Elvis Costello being one that sticks in my mind.
You don't hear Bruce's voice, nor his guitar. Why was he there?
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In his book, he claims that all his early gigging honed his playing and made him a really good guitarist, but Ive never heard him play a solo, he's always there with the Tele around his neck, but to me, seemingly silent.
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I've got his early greatest hits compilation CD, and of course all the songs are so well worn that they offer little to me, should I be listening to something else? (meant sincerely!)
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:26 AM

View PostStylon Pilson, on 13 September 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

Here's an interesting challenge - can anyone name a band that all of basschat will agree are NOT overrated?

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:34 AM

View PostStylon Pilson, on 13 September 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

Here's an interesting challenge - can anyone name a band that all of basschat will agree are NOT overrated?

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Oceansize. Most of you will never have heard of them and when you go to check them out you will quickly realise how goddamn amazing they are!
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:44 AM

View PostStylon Pilson, on 13 September 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

Here's an interesting challenge - can anyone name a band that all of basschat will agree are NOT overrated?

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Black Sabbath

View Postpaul_5, on 13 September 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

I feel exactly the same way about Black Sabbath.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:01 PM

B*witched.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:03 PM

Oasis - most overrated band ever imo, I had the misfortune to have to cover one of there songs in a previous band, used to hate playing that song and was just bored stiff for the duration of the song, also had the misfortune of having a friend that would listen to them all the time, also there lyrics are beyond awful just complete b!!!ocks
Queen - Also very overrated, they managed the impressive task of sounding both pompous and dull

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:39 PM

Surely the point of popular music is that it is the soundtrack to everything else that is going on in your life at that time and usually the happy stuff. Listening to it again after a period of time transports you back to that time which revives good memories and therefore a liking for the music.

There is usually some historical context to the music when it is first recorded, early Springsteen, early Oasis, early Stones, early Elvis, early Queen were all doing someone new when they started which is the bands gained popularity. Under a Blood Red Sky was a good album for U2 but fame and money change people.......

I personally have never understood people raving about Elvis. An important historical icon but hardly the greatest singer in the world. Mind you he did sing in tune (most of the time) which is something that Marc Almond has never managed to achieve!

History should not be judged purely by todays standards. Jaco is musician who's contribution to modern bass playing will still be felt by generations to come but musically his solo and most of his band leader output leave me cold.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:42 PM

Coldplay,

Genesis,

Simply Red,

Simple Minds,

Foo Fighters

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:47 PM

View PostStylon Pilson, on 13 September 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

Here's an interesting challenge - can anyone name a band that all of basschat will agree are NOT overrated?

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The Jam???

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:50 PM

View PostGraham, on 13 September 2017 - 11:26 AM, said:

Queen maybe? I'm sure someone will disagree though - that's what the internet is for :lol:

Early Queen stuff is fantastic, well certainly up to A Night at the Opera (and parts of A Day at The Races), but after that it's all a bit meh. That said, I'm loving that Queen Inc. are (finally) releasing so much of the older material - At The Beeb (1989 release), plus the recentish Rainbow '74/Hammersmith'75 shows and On Air.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:06 PM

Chic for me. I love Nard's lines & tone but their songs as a whole go nowhere after a couple of reps & their lyrics were abominable. I realise I'm probably in a minority of one here & me tin hat's firmly on.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:20 PM

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:31 PM

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:04 PM

Simply Red for sure. Also (puts on Nomex suit) ...Yes. Pretentious, over-long twaddle *runs away*.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:11 PM

View Postradiophonic, on 13 September 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

There are many bands I can't stand, but calling them over-rated doesn't explain anything. It's just a way of not thinking.

View PostNancyJohnson, on 13 September 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

Reading through the comments here, I'd concur with Timmo and PaulWarning... it really is a kind of IMHO type of thing and certainly one man's overrated is another man's underrated.

Yes, yes. But it's a forum. We like being arseholes, mob rule and chucking stones at people for no good reason. We also like ringing doorbells then running away, fiddling with ourselves in Matalan, and throwing Maccy D wrappers from moving cars.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:35 PM

View PostPhil Adams, on 13 September 2017 - 11:24 AM, said:

Thanks for that. I didn't actually say I didn't like him, I guess I just don't understand.
I'll give you and example, and this is purely my take on it.
A concert with Roy Orbison, obviously about 20 years ago coz he's dead now.
Bruce is onstage with many other notable musicians, Elvis Costello being one that sticks in my mind.
You don't hear Bruce's voice, nor his guitar. Why was he there?
Another:
In his book, he claims that all his early gigging honed his playing and made him a really good guitarist, but Ive never heard him play a solo, he's always there with the Tele around his neck, but to me, seemingly silent.
And I stress, I'm not looking for an arguement, I'm looking for enlightenment.
I've got his early greatest hits compilation CD, and of course all the songs are so well worn that they offer little to me, should I be listening to something else? (meant sincerely!)

Think the concert you mention is probably Roy Orbison's 'A Black and White Night' . Bruce features quite a lot in it, notably on guitar (Ooby Dooby, Oh Pretty Woman etc) where he trades licks with the great James Burton, and also vocally ( Dream Baby, Uptown etc). Must admit a lot of it is quite err...'raw', but I like that - no autotune or fancy editing evident.

Regarding listening to slightly lesser known stuff, try Lucky Town or Human Touch (both 1992), Magic (2007) or for a complete
change of style the 2006 We shall Overcome - Seeger Sessions collection.

As you will have gathered, have been a fan since the mid 70's. Also around the same time I got into New Jersey band Southside Johnny
and the Asbury Jukes, who have long been linked with Bruce. Many of their albums contain great songs penned by him, and also some
feature Little Steven, Bruce's guitarist from The E Street Band. Went to see Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul recently in Manchester, absolutely stonking gig again featuring some songs co-written with Bruce.

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