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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:45 PM

View Postitsmedunc, on 13 September 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

A poll taken by whom?

There weren't even a 100 punk bands anyway? Unless we are including the mostly dire post 1979 offerings...

By me, and its a web forum, I dont need to justify my likes and dislikes, thank you. None of us do, its a bit of nonsense.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:59 PM

View Postmikel, on 13 September 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:



By me, and its a web forum, I dont need to justify my likes and dislikes, thank you. None of us do, its a bit of nonsense.

Agreed, just wondering the source.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:15 PM

Pearl Jam - what beige sounds like.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:22 PM

View PostQuevlar, on 13 September 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

Wow! This is an interesting read.
Personally after listening to them i thought the Beatles were overrated. Admittedly i was only a little boy when John Lennon was shot so missed all the hype and their rise in popularity but i've listened to some of their songs and they never really did anything for me.

Better hope Blue's not reading this thread.

I know what you mean though, I think it's an age thing. I'm only 42 so to me Beatlemania is just a few black and white clips of a band rendered barely audible by screaming fans.

My theory is that the Beatles were so influential that to anyone who wasn't there at the time they just don't sound that innovative.

Their sound and song writing structure have been copied so much since that the original material loses much of it's impact with younger generations.

I certainly wouldn't describe them as over rated though. They changed the direction of popular music, it just gets harder to hear that the further we move from the event.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:38 PM

View PostCato, on 13 September 2017 - 09:22 PM, said:

Better hope Blue's not reading this thread.

I know what you mean though, I think it's an age thing. I'm only 42 so to me Beatlemania is just a few black and white clips of a band rendered barely audible by screaming fans.

My theory is that the Beatles were so influential that to anyone who wasn't there at the time they just don't sound that innovative.

Their sound and song writing structure have been copied so much since that the original material loses much of it's impact with younger generations.

I certainly wouldn't describe them as over rated though. They changed the direction of popular music, it just gets harder to hear that the further we move from the event.

Agreed. The Beatles have to be taken in context. Back in the day they were the pilot fish for the rest of the music world. People held there breath when a new recording was imminent. Exciting days, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who did not live through the 60s. Anything and everything was possible.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:40 PM

View Posttimmo, on 13 September 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

I also like the Levellers. Levelling The Land is one of my favourite albums. Fantastic live in the early 90's.

I hear ya - I loved Levelling the Land and have seen the band twice at various festivals over the years - been brilliant each time.

In fairness I don't remember them ever being heaped with quite the same gushing praise as some of the other truly overrated acts on this list anyway.

Hence whether the Levellers are any good is secondary to how highly-acclaimed they are/were in the first place, if you follow me.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:36 PM

It's a good read, this thread. 😁

Top of my list, especially as far as the BC fraternity is concerned, has to be Jamiroquai. I think Vulpeck are hugely overrated too.

IMO, there's a difference between bands who's music I personally don't like, and bands who I think are overrated. In the case of Jamiroquai, I personally don't like their music at all and I think they're vastly overrated.

Conversely, I actually quite like some of the Vulpeck stuff I've heard, but still think they're a bit overrated

Just my personal 2p worth of course.

To try to argue that The Beatles are overrated is an utterly futile exercise; all the evidence - their sales, cultural impact, critical acclaim, respect from their peer over the years, etc, etc - is too compelling a case.

Be that as it may, it doesn't mean you have to like their music.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:42 PM

View Postsilverfoxnik, on 13 September 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:



To try to argue that The Beatles are overrated is an utterly futile exercise; all the evidence - their sales, cultural impact, critical acclaim, respect from their peer over the years, etc, etc - is too compelling a case.

Be that as it may, it doesn't mean you have to like their music.
not wanting to start another Beatles debate but I have to say he's right, bit like saying Elvis was overrated, didn't like a lot of his stuff but I'd never say he was overrated

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:25 AM

View Postitsmedunc, on 13 September 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

PS. U2 as well. A bad enough pretentious band but when they and equally pretentious Green Day murdered The Skids song, The Saints Are Coming, they went onto my "Sh*t List"!

I can understand people not getting Green Day, but pretentious isn't a word I'd associate with them.

View PostAndyTravis, on 13 September 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

Always struggled to fathom the Pete Doherty thing. Libertines and BabyShambles.

Might've been more to do with him being a goon though.

I've played a couple of songs in our set, the song writing is great, but you are right about Pete.

View Postmikel, on 13 September 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

Agreed. The Beatles have to be taken in context. Back in the day they were the pilot fish for the rest of the music world. People held there breath when a new recording was imminent. Exciting days, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who did not live through the 60s. Anything and everything was possible.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:44 AM

this is such a hard one, because its so subjective.

some people will say a band is overrated, but the size of its fan base shows otherwise. its one of those ones that's never can come to an agreement, but since we like to disagree and discuss on here

radiohead, anything related to morrisey, queen (i like queen but they are overrated), coldplay, jeff buckley, nirvana, the stones... controversially also don't get the hype around jaco pastorious either, he may be a great jazz musician who changes the way people look at bass, but it really isn't all that nice to listen to at times.... i suppose that makes me an unlearned heathen around here.

my theory is a lot of bands/artists get overhyped if they die tragically or young.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:47 AM

View PostRockfordStone, on 14 September 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

my theory is a lot of bands/artists get overhyped if they die tragically or young.
Completely agree. In the interests of avoiding a flame war however, I'll refrain from naming a couple of glaring examples.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:48 AM

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my theory is a lot of bands/artists get overhyped if they die tragically or young.
that's because they've not had chance to go past their sell by date, who knows how Buddy Holly, Hendrix etc, would have turned out if they'd lived.
Here's another one I just don't get Tom Jones

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:01 AM

Re: Springsteen. Listen to one album. Born to Run. Either you like or not. Earlier or lator albums might be spotty, but this is the one that put him on the map.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:06 AM

View Postmikel, on 13 September 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

Agreed. The Beatles have to be taken in context. Back in the day they were the pilot fish for the rest of the music world. People held there breath when a new recording was imminent. Exciting days, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who did not live through the 60s. Anything and everything was possible.

I was born in 1960, but spent most of the decade interested in Lego, Meccano and model aeroplanes and tanks rather than pop music. In fact I wasn't really interested in music of any kind until I heard T. Rex on the radio in 1971.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:09 AM

View PostPaulWarning, on 14 September 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

that's because they've not had chance to go past their sell by date, who knows how Buddy Holly, Hendrix etc, would have turned out if they'd lived.
Here's another one I just don't get Tom Jones
exactly, imagine if kurt cobain had lived, nirvana would be turning out middle of the road durge like bon jovi do every couple of years

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:09 AM

View PostBigRedX, on 14 September 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

I was born in 1960, but spent most of the decade interested in Lego, Meccano and model aeroplanes and tanks rather than pop music. In fact I wasn't really interested in music of any kind until I heard T. Rex on the radio in 1971.

Sounds a bit like me. Born 1960 too and Truck On Tyke 73 when i bought single.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

I'm not a huge Beatles fan but the thing that completely blows me away about them is the way their music evolved over such a short space of time. To go from 'She love you, yeah, yeah, yeah' to Across The Universe in a handful of years is quite extraordinary. I can't think of any other band whose evolution has been anywhere near as spectacular.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:30 AM

View PostNicko, on 14 September 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

I can understand people not getting Green Day, but pretentious isn't a word I'd associate with them.



I've played a couple of songs in our set, the song writing is great, but you are right about Pete.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:33 AM

View PostJaphet, on 14 September 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

I'm not a huge Beatles fan but the thing that completely blows me away about them is the way their music evolved over such a short space of time. To go from 'She love you, yeah, yeah, yeah' to Across The Universe in a handful of years is quite extraordinary. I can't think of any other band whose evolution has been anywhere near as spectacular.

I would like to think that any group of half-way decent musicians and songwriters, give access to the artistic influences, technological support and development and lack of financial obligation to stick to a winning musical formula, that The Beatles enjoyed would be equally capable of showing the same kind of development. Just look at what The Pretty Things achieved from their debut album in 1964 to "Parachute" in 1970 with a fraction of the resources that the Beatles had.

On the other hand there are those who would argue that "She Loves You" is a far superior song to "Across The Universe".

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 12:12 PM

View Postmikel, on 14 September 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

No no no, simply stating facts.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 12:41 PM

Since they're absent after 4 pages is it safe to assume Kiss are a "given"? :ph34r:

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View PostBig_Stu, on 14 September 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

Since they're absent after 4 pages is it safe to assume Kiss are a "given"? :ph34r:

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:20 PM

View PostBolo, on 13 September 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Jamerson & Pino.
Not bad, but heavily overrated around here.
Jamerson was another musician at the right place at the right time. He shaped a lot of Motown songs with his bass lines. Maybe not the best ever, but he must be one of the most influential. Some of the bass lines sound like they should never go with the song if you listen to them in isolation, but they fit like a glove when put into the mix.
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:22 PM

If I could chose just an over rated album, then Paul Simon - Graceland . Pretentious rubbish
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:36 PM

View PostPaulWarning, on 14 September 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

that's because they've not had chance to go past their sell by date, who knows how Buddy Holly, Hendrix etc, would have turned out if they'd lived.
Here's another one I just don't get Tom Jones

I didn't get Tom Jones in a big way until fairly recently. Saw him live a few months ago and he totally blew me
away - great band / material / attitude, and that voice! At 77 years old, one of the very few singers left of his
generation who are actually as good if not better than when they first found fame. Never heard Tom come
even close to missing a note, an amazing singer. His last few albums are definitely worth a listen too, quite
dark and bluesy.
Completely get it if you don't like his voice, but honestly don't think he is overrated.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:46 PM

Jaco Pastorius and other similar jazz widdlers .

I completely appreciate the skill but find it snooze central.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:20 PM

View PostRockfordStone, on 14 September 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

this is such a hard one, because its so subjective.

some people will say a band is overrated, but the size of its fan base shows otherwise.
Isn't that exactly what is meant by overrated?
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:28 PM

That's not unusual!!!

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:57 PM

Quite a few surprises in this thread.
Don't get the Kiss one tho. ?
They've a huge fan base and they do put on a massive theatrical show. Maybe not the greatest musicians in the world and they have gone a bit pop but in their heyday they were pretty much top of their game.

Afraid i am a Kiss fan at heart mainly their older stuff but I've never actually seen them live.

Just goes to show how everyone's taste in music is so different.

On the Jaco thing i can appreciate his talent but even as a bassist i couldn't listen to a full album of the stuff. Maybe in late 70's early 80's i might have just to perfect my own bass skills but not now.

The Beatles one did confuse me a little too considering how many famous hit records they've had.

Think if you lived in the heyday of some of the bands mentioned in the thread you may have had a different perspective off them but many of the younger bassists just don't get the older bands much the same as many of the older bassists (me included) don't get some of the modern bands.

Life is a funny old thing :lol: :lol: :lol:

Still it's made for an interesting thread.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:13 PM

Cream. Most of what I have heard sounds like big ego's playing over each other.

I have tried to listen to that Albert Hall concert from 1968 - never managed to get to the end. I guess it's one of those "You had to be there" moments to get it.





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