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#1 adamg67

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:04 AM

So, I have been struggling a bit with my old Presonus Firewire interfaces and Windows 10 on my new laptop, I'm pretty sure it's related to the driver somehow but there's not much you can do to fix that. It all works fine on my old Win 7 PC so I'll probably just keep that as a spare rig.

I always planned to go for a Thunderbolt interface at some point, and I want to get the latency low enough for live guitar, bass or keyboards so that all my amps, effects and key-based stuff can go 100% virtual. The new Presonus Quantum coming out just in time for my old one packing up seemed too good to be true, but I bought one anyway. :)

First impressions: It's the answer. They have ditched all the DSP and hardware zero latency stuff, which to me always meant another set of plugins and was why I didn't get a UAD Apollo Twin, and have just gone for low latency in and out of the DAW. It's easily good enough for live monitoring, I havn't properly tested how low I can go yet but low single figure millisecond round trip times will be easy, should be 3ms or better and completely stable. That's the same as standing 3 feet further away from your speakers when you're playing, in other words it is near enough to zero.

I think the time has finally come when even my MarkBass Multiamp - which is DSP anyway - will go, and I'll just have everything "in the box", for (home) studio or live.
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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:33 AM

Thanks for the hands-on review ! It got high praise in last month's Sound On Sound, but always nice to have that validated. Did you get a Thunderbolt PCIe card or are you running it through a Mac?
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 12:33 PM

My laptop has Thunderbolt 3, so I run it through a Startech Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter, as recommended by Presonus. It's a minor annoyance having the extra bit hanging off the laptop, but I'll dig out some sticky back velcro to keep things tidy.

I've got a little bit sidetracked redecorating the home studio room ready but everything will be going back in soon and then I'll be able to have a better play with it.
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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:37 PM

Purely out of professional curiosity, what sold you on the Presonus over a Focusrite Clarett?

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 10:56 PM

My laptop is my (Linux) software dev environment as well as my audio machine, and other things. I could switch to Mac but it's just as propriety as Windows in the end, even if it is BSD underneath. So for now for me for audio it's Windows 10 + thunderbolt 3. That ruled Clarett out from the off as far as I could tell, no support for my setup.

I was hoping that TB3 would be the technology that made things work nicely on both platforms, but it's not looking that way just yet. So was always down to TB2 interfaces with Windows 10 support, which was pretty much UAD or the Quantum.

I liked the approach with the quantum of going for low latency and doing everything in the DAW, that's why I bought such a beefy laptop in the first place - best Macbook Pro is about half the speed, they seem to be going for thinner and lighter without updating the spec, and still charging crazy money.

It seems to work, I can run more virtual amps and effects than I'll ever need and still get stupidly low latency. Weighs a bit more than a Mac though :)

Edited by adamg67, 14 October 2017 - 08:32 AM.

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 08:23 PM

 adamg67, on 13 October 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

My laptop is my (Linux) software dev environment as well as my audio machine, and other things. I could switch to Mac but it's just as propriety as Windows in the end, even if it is BSD underneath. So for now for me for audio it's Windows 10 + thunderbolt 3. That ruled Clarett out from the off as far as I could tell, no support for my setup.

I was hoping that TB3 would be the technology that made things work nicely on both platforms, but it's not looking that way just yet. So was always down to TB2 interfaces with Windows 10 support, which was pretty much UAD or the Quantum.

I liked the approach with the quantum of going for low latency and doing everything in the DAW, that's why I bought such a beefy laptop in the first place - best Macbook Pro is about half the speed, they seem to be going for thinner and lighter without updating the spec, and still charging crazy money.

It seems to work, I can run more virtual amps and effects than I'll ever need and still get stupidly low latency. Weighs a bit more than a Mac though :)

Thanks very much, that's interesting to hear, only because Claretts are indeed supported on Windows 10, see here:

https://uk.focusrite.com/node/31789

There's some specific info on Windows & Thunderbolt here:

https://support.focu...s-Compatibility

Also interested to hear about the requirement of Thunderbolt 2 specifically, as not many people run the kind of recording setup that requires that kind of bandwidth (please do correct me if I'm wrong in your case), more info here:

https://support.focu...Interfaces-Use-

I don't think I'm aware of any TB3 interfaces yet, or any TB/TB2 devices supported (officially or otherwise) over TB3. Whilst TB3 is not a particularly new protocol, the roll-out of USB-C on PCs has been on the slow side I feel.

Please don't take this as some aggressive 'oh you should have bought this' technique, far from it, you're obviously more than happy with your interface, and that's all that matters of course. But if I can get the above info about Claretts out there a little more and seen by others who might be on a Google search, then that's a good thing :).

Cheers for replying though, happy recording!

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