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Posted 15 January 2009 - 04:10 PM

I cant find a tab for this anywhere?! im hoping its just that im looking in the wrong places maybe someone could point me in the right direction please...

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 04:18 PM

I seem to remember a transcription or part thereof in a Bass Player a while ago. I shall mooch tonight!!!
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 04:21 PM

Have you tried sitting down with a recording and transcribing it by ear?

It takes a little longer but you'll feel better, it'll most likely be more accurate than 90% of tabs out there, and it will develop your ear.

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 04:26 PM

i know ihave a copy of that issue
if you pm i'll scan and send you a copy.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 04:29 PM

View PostMike, on Jan 15 2009, 04:21 PM, said:

Have you tried sitting down with a recording and transcribing it by ear?

It takes a little longer but you'll feel better, it'll most likely be more accurate than 90% of tabs out there, and it will develop your ear.

I agree but I'd settle for the lesser satisfaction of putting the tab right!

I too have searched for any even vaguely accurate tab on this without any success. Lovely bass line though! I'll upgrade myself from Beginner to Vaguely Useful if I ever really master it! ;) :P
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:05 PM

id give it a go at playing along, but it would probably take me an age. plus im sort of getting back into bass after about a year of not bothering so im not too hot at it at the moment.

ive been trying to find lots of motown tabs aswell with not much luck, found a few jackson 5 tabs and a couple of marvin gaye tabs, but i dont really know where else to look apart from bassmasta.net

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:18 PM

Why play it note for note? Tommy Cogbill busked it. Make it yours and play your take on it.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:22 PM

Good tune and those first bars are a great break, used by DJ Muggs in Cypress Hill if I recall correctly.

The bass part is pretty free, as the previous poster, said so I'd get some basics down then suit yourself. Good luck!

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:24 PM

download guitar pro 5, and then google.com and search for "song title"+"guitar pro" and it willfind some awesome tabs.best program ever

you download a tabfile thats a few kb and you press play, it then plays a midi version of the song with all the tabs for the instruments playing.easy to learn with as you take the volumn of the bass down and play along, or take the volume of the rest of the band and boost the bass.

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:32 PM

+1 for guitarpro, allows me to learn stuff 5 times quicker than by ear alone. Generally the files are pretty accurate too, much more so than a lot of general tab files out there. Just wish that the mysongbook archive was fully accessible again!
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:43 PM

righto ill give it a try, cheers for the response guys

cool thing is a got a microcube rx through the post the other day ive been w***ing over that for days, if the midi thing on guitar pro works rightly like photographymatt says i should be able to play guitarpro through my amp

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:50 AM

I have done a full transcription/adaptation of this bassline, but it's in notation only, not tab. Let me know if you'd like me to send it to you - I believe the recorded key is E, right?

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 02:37 AM

We did this as a request one night. I think its the kind of song that should be busked unheard than perfect swatty bum lick.

Watch Pulp Fiction and you should've heard enough to get you by.

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 08:12 AM

Cant find it for guitar pro,linky anyone ?? ;)
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 10:23 AM

View PostDelberthot, on Jan 16 2009, 02:37 AM, said:

We did this as a request one night. I think its the kind of song that should be busked unheard than perfect swatty bum lick.

I've done both - I busked this tune more or less unheard for quite some time in a function band, and after that I transcribed and worked it out more or less note for note for a Dusty tribute band. The busking method certainly had its charms, but in my opinion there is no substitute for the transcribing option; it is the best way to get into the mindset of the musician who played the part. And you can always busk it afterwards, with the knowledge that you are doing so from the point of view of adding to the canon, rather than noodling around disrepectfully :-)

I'm certainly not advocating note-for-note transcriptions of all the songs one plays - life is too short - but some basslines are worth it. "Son of a Preacher Man" is one of these IMHO.

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 10:58 AM

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id give it a go at playing along, but it would probably take me an age. plus im sort of getting back into bass after about a year of not bothering so im not too hot at it at the moment.

ive been trying to find lots of motown tabs aswell with not much luck, found a few jackson 5 tabs and a couple of marvin gaye tabs, but i dont really know where else to look apart from bassmasta.net

For mowtown stuff you've got to pick up a b ook called standing in the shadows of motown: the life of legendary bassist james jameson... its part biog, part transcriptions and comes with 2 cds of tracks with bass panned one way so you can solo, or remove to play along with backing tracks... best bit from my perspective, is its standared notation only so is helping me improve my reading too!

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:29 AM

View Postdumelow, on Jan 15 2009, 05:05 PM, said:

... but i dont really know where else to look apart from bassmasta.net

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/ is sometimes pretty good & actually has quite a few bass tabs.

There's even one on there for the song your after, though I can't vouch for it's accuracy or usefulness...

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/dust...er_man_btab.htm

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:41 AM

There was a similar thread looking for the tab/transcription for Hit Me With Your Rythm Stick, which I was happy to oblige. I ended up posting the transcription as a number of BassChatters were after it.
Maybe a good idea to do the same with this. Part of the tab/transcription is in a book called "The R&B Bass Masters" and includes work by JJ, Duck Dunne, Chuck Rainey, Jerry Jemmott, Tommy Cogbill, Bootsy, George Porter, Ronnie Baker, Willie Weeks and David Hood.
Same deal as SISOM with a CD of the tracks.
Someone suggested that it might be an idea for a new section on BassChat for transcriptions/tabs.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 11:51 AM

There was a mention of this in another thread about posting old transcritions from bass magazines and the idea ground to a halt over copyrights etc.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:07 PM

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I cant find a tab for this anywhere?! im hoping its just that im looking in the wrong places maybe someone could point me in the right direction please...
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:10 PM

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"The R&B Bassmasters" by Ed Friedland is for sale on Amazon: 9.99 with free postage if you don't want it next day!
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:18 PM

View PostKevB, on Jan 15 2009, 05:32 PM, said:

+1 for guitarpro, allows me to learn stuff 5 times quicker than by ear alone. Generally the files are pretty accurate too, much more so than a lot of general tab files out there. Just wish that the mysongbook archive was fully accessible again!

I dont have the whole archive on my comp..its not easy to download via torrent at all...;-) yeah, a record lable(major one) kicked up a stink over copyright and they got shut down(msb.com) but you cant ban a program so the tabs carry on underground.

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 12:22 PM

View Postendorka, on Jan 16 2009, 12:50 AM, said:

I have done a full transcription/adaptation of this bassline, but it's in notation only, not tab. Let me know if you'd like me to send it to you - I believe the recorded key is E, right?

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thanks but that wouldnt be much use to me, i havent read a single note since leaving college. I found some software called tuxguitar which reads powertab aswell as guitar pro files. That coupled with ultimate guitar archive should keep me quiet around these parts for a while

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 08:10 PM

One thing I remember reading from an interview with Tommy Cogbill is that he avoided playing the open E and kept up the octave because the bass line comes out better on the radio that way

not sure how applicable that still is, but it's very noticeable on this tune
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Posted 04 October 2009 - 11:14 PM

View Postendorka, on Jan 16 2009, 01:50 AM, said:

I have done a full transcription/adaptation of this bassline, but it's in notation only, not tab. Let me know if you'd like me to send it to you - I believe the recorded key is E, right?

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Dear Jennifer, Could you send it to mee, too. I am desperately seeking a notation of this bass line. Yes, it is recorded in E. All the best from Switzerland

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 11:27 PM

View Postendorka, on Jan 16 2009, 01:50 AM, said:

I have done a full transcription/adaptation of this bassline, but it's in notation only, not tab. Let me know if you'd like me to send it to you - I believe the recorded key is E, right?

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Jennifer, I'd love a copy of that notation if you'd email it to me. The key is definitely E on the Springfield/Cogbill version.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 11:43 PM

View Postboo, on Jan 16 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

There's even one on there for the song your after, though I can't vouch for it's accuracy or usefulness...

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/d/dust...er_man_btab.htm
That's a start but I'd say that it's definitely not entirely accurate.

However I doubt Cogbill would have played it the same twice, but the same feel would have been there and that's what matters.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 07:22 AM

Yeah, I totally agree with Essentialtension it's all about the feel .Lock in with what your drummers doing and make it yours.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:25 AM

my 2p..

you really ought to get in to the habit of busking this type of song..

It has a classic structure and there is nothing awkward in there chord-wise so just get a copy and play it to death...

This will train your ears to hear 'changes' and intervals and passing notes... which will be a major plus down the line, IMO





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