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Posted 13 March 2009 - 05:42 PM

I was practicing with the new Overwater (like got it last night) this morning when it just plummeted to the ground :)

This is a bass that's totally like, new, immaculate and unmarked!

I thought initially that I'd cocked up fitting the straplocks but no:

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I checked it all round but there seems to be no obvious damage. It landed on its lower body edge on the carpet otherwise it would of been so easy to bend a tuner or a pot at the very least.

I emailed Bass Collection this morning but got no reply.

If you use one of these straps check it over. I don't jump around or anything like that either.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 05:54 PM

That happened to me Peter with an ageing Brooklyn Gear Strap - fixed it with a cable tie. Hope that bass is ok.
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:00 PM

I replaced it with a Brooklyn Gear Al!!

I think I'll put cable ties in place on all my straps as a 'just in case' back up measure.

I've had a better look around and all seems tickety boo :)
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:10 PM

How's that new bass - you likey?
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:16 PM

Ouch!

Our singer had a similar thing happen with a Planet Waves strap.

It's a big, thick leather strap with straplocks for me every time
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 06:22 PM

I've got 3 of this style of strap and I've just cable tied all of them at every plastic link. I have to say that the quality of the original, the Comfort 'Strapp', seems the best.

Well worth doing Al and this thread deserves to go into the Wiki if it hasn't already been done before. Cheers.

The Overwater seems a great bass Al. Extremely well made and solid (just as well) with a good tone. I'm a bit spoilt by the ACG pre-amp to be honest but I'll report back after practice tomorrow.

The action was very high and I've fitted nickels (Sunbeams), lowered the action two whole turns on the saddles and done the intonation. The action will go lower still but I'm happy for now.

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 07:54 PM

Them leather ends look dodge too...
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 08:28 PM

that's terrifying!
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 08:44 PM

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Them leather ends look dodge too...

That'd be where I had to remove some leather to fit the Schallers.

They are fine if a little untidy looking when the straplocks are removed.
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 09:01 PM

Thanks for posting this..i have been using the Comfort Strapp,for all my basses,and although they are probally better quality,i have never thought of the possibilty that one of the four plastic links may break 'till now....cable ties,good idea as a precaution..Ady

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 09:19 PM

I won't touch anything with a buckle-all leather or all fabric, with straplocks for me.
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 09:28 PM

Trouble is for me that the most comfortable straps are the padded neophrene and elastic webbing type. The cable ties will prevent a re-occurrence and next time I'll source the original Strapp.
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Posted 13 March 2009 - 10:53 PM

Glad to hear your expensive new bass is OK! Nightmare scenario. :)

I keep meaning to fit strap locks to my main bass, the strap's leather ends are pretty soft and they slip off easily. Can't imagine ever not having one hand on the neck but I'm tempting fate.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 07:06 AM

View PostBeLow, on Mar 13 2009, 10:00 PM, said:

I have started looking for the original comfort strap because I could do with another butthey don't seem to be around as much. I got my first one from Mansons but they don't do the any more, can any one recommend another supplier.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 08:02 AM

They are the best methinks, I've just ordered one for the Overwater. The way I fit the one on my Harlot is that the straplock goes on the outer hole and I pop the inner hole on the button 1st and the straplock goes on top. This means that not only does it give double protection (like 2 durex) but the straplock isn't under any strain and it doesn't 'squeak' when the bass moves while you're dancing around :).

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 08:25 AM

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 06:30 PM

Should have used the Overwater comfort strap, Have gigged one for around 6 years with no problem and loads of comfort still got all its give in the elastic section as well!

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 03:38 PM

View Postcd_david, on Mar 14 2009, 06:30 PM, said:

Should have used the Overwater comfort strap, Have gigged one for around 6 years with no problem and loads of comfort still got all its give in the elastic section as well!

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+1 to that.. had the Overwater strap (still dreaming of one of their basses :) ) for about six years myself. Brilliant. :rolleyes:

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 04:05 PM

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Should have used the Overwater comfort strap,

Is it only me that bridles at 'Should have....' statements.

I had an Overwater comfort strap and couldn't stand it! Comfort Strapps are far superior imo. One is now fitted to my very fine Overwater bass :)

All the elastic on the Overwater strap was in one piece in front of the padded section and my bass neck was doing nodding donkey impressions. For me a very significant design flaw.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:07 PM

if you don't have / want straplocks the rubber like washers from , for examples , Grolsch bottles are pretty effective - just push onto the strap buttons on top if the strap ends.
and they won't rattle like strap locks can when not held tight by a strap eg playing sitting down.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:10 PM

Exactly the same thing happened to my Comfort Strapp two weeks ago. Fortunately grabbed the bass before it hit the ground. Still, pants :)
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Posted 06 April 2009 - 10:26 PM

An alternative to the Grolsch bottle rubber washers (and one I've used on a few guitars over the years) is to use the round disc string retainers as found on Fender basses instead of regular strap buttons. Makes it a PITA to take the strap off, but it does make "strap popping over the strap button" type accidents less likely.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:42 AM

View PostBeLow, on Mar 14 2009, 08:59 AM, said:

As an aside I found the label of mine recently and read it properly for the first time, with the comfort strap and just realised the two holes are not for adjustment but are supposed to be folded over to give two thicknesses of leather on the strap button - Dooooh!

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 04:45 PM

Hello all,

I've been in touch with Ped and he's happy for us to post a reply here.

GreeneKing (the OP) was contacted the same day by email apologising for the problem and a replacement was immediately sent out. Hopefully there have not been any similar problems since.

We welcome any comments about the Bass Collection Comfort Strap. This unfortunate incident is the only problem we're aware of regarding the structural performance of the strap (out of the hundreds sold), however the design has been modified and we believe the latest version is the most robust to date.

Clarky - can you clarify that your strap was a Comfort Strapp and not a Bass Collection strap? Many thanks.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 09:13 PM

I bought two very expensive 6 stringers (one fretted and one fretless) from the Bass Centre last year, very happy with them both. But I also bought two comfort straps at the same time, and exactly the same happened - the plastic thingys just snapped in half. Fortunately, I was sitting down on both occasions. The other problem was that if you play with your bass fairly high up, the adjustments are no good.

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Hello all,

I've been in touch with Ped and he's happy for us to post a reply here.

GreeneKing (the OP) was contacted the same day by email apologising for the problem and a replacement was immediately sent out. Hopefully there have not been any similar problems since.

We welcome any comments about the Bass Collection Comfort Strap. This unfortunate incident is the only problem we're aware of regarding the structural performance of the strap (out of the hundreds sold), however the design has been modified and we believe the latest version is the most robust to date.

Clarky - can you clarify that your strap was a Comfort Strapp and not a Bass Collection strap? Many thanks.

All the best,

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 09:21 PM

View PostThe_BassCentre, on Apr 20 2009, 05:45 PM, said:

Clarky - can you clarify that your strap was a Comfort Strapp and not a Bass Collection strap? Many thanks.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 09:00 AM

Thank you for the feedback - we'll talk to our manufacturer and see if there are further improvements that can be made.
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Posted 25 December 2009 - 02:29 PM

I never trust plastic anymore, I had one break just by picking the bass up :|

I say get a good quality thick one, like this:
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They cost a lot, but you know your bass will be safe for life. And 'cause of the thickness of the strap, its not only more safe ,but more comfortable.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 06:10 PM

I bought one of these MONO straps and then when it arrived, I bought another.

They are the best made strap I've ever seen. The loops are anodised metal and not plastic and the whole is beautifully made and incredibly robust. I did a 2.5 hour gig on Friday and nearly 3 hours on Saturday with a 10.2lb Spector and didn't have any of the aches I get with a Comfort strapp.
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 02:16 PM

Thick leather strap. You have to work to get it on; no worries about it coming off.

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