Toasted Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 What's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Badass I does not fit Fender holes. Badass II does fit Fender holes but does not have through body stringing. Badass III fits Fender holes and through body stringing. I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 [quote name='bass_ferret' post='68078' date='Oct 1 2007, 12:29 PM']Badass I does not fit Fender holes. Badass II does fit Fender holes but does not have through body stringing. Badass III fits Fender holes and through body stringing. I think.[/quote] Badass III has three screw holes plus 4 for strings, Badass II has 5 screw holes only. They are NOT interchangable without further drilling your bass. The II fits older Fenders and MIJ/MIM, whilst the III fits more recent MIA and deluxe and Custom Shop models. IIIs now also come with two sets of saddles, one normal and one 'bright tone', the latter are pre-grooved and made of a different alloy to the older versions, which aparently extends the harmonic response. Or something. Both are bloody ugly Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 They may not be pretty, but do have a greater degree of engineering content than the original Fender/Squier items. There are other bass bridges out there (ABM, Kahler etc.) and these all have their various merits and de-merits. The BadAsses do improve the attack/sustain and clarity/harmonic content of notes, giving a more modern tone than the stock items. Many famous Fender users have them fitted; (and they appear on their signature instruments also) Marcus Miller Mike Dirnt Geddy Lee Steve Harris (no signature that I'm aware of) This at least gives you an opportunity to A/B a BadAssed (!) Fender Model against a Non-BadAssed model. Lots of people here own Marcus Miller/Geddy Lee Jazzes. They're well regarded instruments, on the whole. I've never seen any complaints aimed at the bridges (yet!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 [quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='68144' date='Oct 1 2007, 01:53 PM']They may not be pretty, but do have a greater degree of engineering content than the original Fender/Squier items. There are other bass bridges out there (ABM, Kahler etc.) and these all have their various merits and de-merits. The BadAsses do improve the attack/sustain and clarity/harmonic content of notes, giving a more modern tone than the stock items. Many famous Fender users have them fitted; (and they appear on their signature instruments also) Marcus Miller Mike Dirnt Geddy Lee Steve Harris (no signature that I'm aware of) This at least gives you an opportunity to A/B a BadAssed (!) Fender Model against a Non-BadAssed model. Lots of people here own Marcus Miller/Geddy Lee Jazzes. They're well regarded instruments, on the whole. I've never seen any complaints aimed at the bridges (yet!)[/quote] All true, no complaints, they are great bridges, but perhaps the need for such hi-fi tine and the design of the bridge was a function of its time (i.e., 1970s). A lot of players - myself included - have reverted to original Fender bridges, which are, in keeping with many aspects of Fender's craftsmanship, somewhat cruder but have a tonal quality of their own. My '73 Precision, which has a lovely low growly thump with the original bridge, sounded much less so when I installed a Badass, so I re-installed the original. Like so many other things in music, the idea that a technology 'improves' something such as tone is more accurately stated as technology 'changes' that thing. 'Improvement' is a very subjective term. Having said that, I have a Badass II on my fretless Precision! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOD2 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 [quote name='Toasted' post='68071' date='Oct 1 2007, 12:24 PM']What's the difference?[/quote] Grumble, mumble, moan....read the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=193"]sticky[/url] ...grumble, mumble, moan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 [quote name='BOD2' post='68244' date='Oct 1 2007, 04:55 PM']Grumble, mumble, moan....read the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=193"]sticky[/url] ...grumble, mumble, moan.... [/quote] There there (strokes penguin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 [quote name='Beedster' post='68171' date='Oct 1 2007, 02:45 PM']All true, no complaints, they are great bridges, but perhaps the need for such hi-fi tine and the design of the bridge was a function of its time (i.e., 1970s). A lot of players - myself included - have reverted to original Fender bridges, which are, in keeping with many aspects of Fender's craftsmanship, somewhat cruder but have a tonal quality of their own. My '73 Precision, which has a lovely low growly thump with the original bridge, sounded much less so when I installed a Badass, so I re-installed the original. Like so many other things in music, the idea that a technology 'improves' something such as tone is more accurately stated as technology 'changes' that thing. 'Improvement' is a very subjective term. Having said that, I have a Badass II on my fretless Precision! Chris[/quote] I have a BAII on my Squier 70's VMJ, but a Fender unit on my 2004 MIA Jazz. The Attitude still has its standard (hefty) brass bridge... Different sounds for different basses. It'd be dull if they all sounded the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdragon Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 [quote name='BOD2' post='68244' date='Oct 1 2007, 03:55 PM']Grumble, mumble, moan....read the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=193"]sticky[/url] ...grumble, mumble, moan.... [/quote] Yeah, i read the sticky, after i bought a Badass 1 for Fender jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Makes a change for me to miss the opportunity to say 'read the sticky'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 [quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='68322' date='Oct 1 2007, 07:11 PM']I have a BAII on my Squier 70's VMJ, but a Fender unit on my 2004 MIA Jazz. The Attitude still has its standard (hefty) brass bridge... Different sounds for different basses. It'd be dull if they all sounded the same![/quote] Indeed, couldn't have put it better Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayfan Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Cor, it sounds like a bit of a faff filing grooves in the saddles. Suggest a Gotoh bridge - just as chunky but the saddles are already pre-cut. It took me about 5 minutes to swap mine over with my old bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantdosleepy Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 [quote name='Beedster' post='68171' date='Oct 1 2007, 02:45 PM']Like so many other things in music, the idea that a technology 'improves' something such as tone is more accurately stated as technology 'changes' that thing. 'Improvement' is a very subjective term. Chris[/quote] Marxist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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