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So the panedemic took its toll on a originals band I joined. One of the most exciting lead guitarists I have played with in a long time, a rhytm guitarist that genuninely locked in, great percussionist and a drummer that was begiining to handle 5/4, 7/8, 9/8 but eventually was the one that I fell out with. In hindsight I could of handled it better. Anyway this track is not how the above actually sounded at all. This is just something I have put together myself over the last month to keep myself occupied. Only 2mins 47secs if you have the time to give it a whirl.

OK disclaimer I am not a rock/metalhead and get tickets cheap through a festival trader friend of mine but got back yesterday from my third download that I go to in order to meet up with two very old school friends, one of which is a complete metalhead. [b]Weather -[/b] it was not glorious but compared to previous downloads I have attended it was like being in the tropics and as a result the 4 days of camping was actually fun rather than just a necessary evil. Actually the download fest goers are great fun (one of the reasons I am persuaded to go back) and so even in the mud there is still a party atmosphere. [b]Live mix -[/b] Never enjoyed the sound at download (I usually end up calling it the festival of the kick drum) but this may be a taste thing thing as it appears when I talk to others in attendance they do not seem to see the issue, so perhaps the genre expects/demands a heavy kick drum bias. I.e The mix for system of a down, which I though was reasonable, shows the rig is capable of more clarity. Even the smaller stages (large tents) had a heavy kick drum bias where the engineers are not fighting the elements (i.e. no wind issues etc) so again suggests that sound is desired. [b]The line up -[/b] [b]Biggest surprise[/b] for me were Mastadon who I did not expect to enjoy more than the standard fare. I had intended to see the beginning of their set and then head over to watch Suicidal Tendencies. Instead (despite of the sound) I watched the entire set and think the arrangement quirks would have held them in good stead at an All Tomorrows Parties festival, great stuff and I will try and catch these guys in their own right. [b]New Find - [/b]Idles - shame about the kick heavy mix but still enjoyed enough to be looking into their music. [b]Best of the rest -[/b] System of a down Suicidal Tendencies (only caught the later part but reliable as always) Slayer Tax The Heat Prophets of Rage [b]Worst Moment[/b] The mainstage line-up on sunday was always going to problematic for me but Steel Panther was painful. I have seen them before and I did laugh (as is the intention) but the show has not really not moved on, the humour seems even more out of date, bordering on distasteful. I put them in a place similar to how Benny Hill fell from glory. [b]Will I go again[/b] Probably a year off before I can be persuaded and it will be line up dependent but yes.

Unless something else comes along before hand it will be The Bad Plus at Ronnie Scotts in July. My lovely partner took me to see them at Ronnie's a good few years back for a surprise birthday treat. They were fantastic but she had not factored in the rather spontaneous set times at the venue and we had to leave to catch the last train just as they were starting up the second set. Have factored in a taxi ride into the budget this time around!

[quote name='AustinArto' timestamp='1476023595' post='3150495'] In the first post you had it tracking with no perceived latency, then in the next you'd conceded that blending in your dry signal glossed over the latency, but you still found it to be very consistent, then finally you've said it misbehaves occasionally. Glad I didn't rush out and buy an RME interface... [/quote] Fair comment, albeit very un-friendly in tone. I was going to justify that my posts kept track of my findings over time and perhaps go on to update how I get on with the new tool. However, it is apparent that I am too sensitive for these forums, can't review for toffee and so will retreat back to making music rather than trying to discuss it. Cheers

OK so exciting times. Picking up a Barefaced Big Twin II tomorrow and if the trial works well will be selling my lovely (but heavy) EBS Prolines 410 and 115 in November that I have been using for the last 7 years. The barefaced will have a lot to live up to, but I am hoping for my backs sake and for the full range synth/sample sounds that it works out well. I still love the Jam Origin Midi Bass software and still thoroughly recommend it as a cheap way of testing the midi bass world. However, the fact it is monophonic and does seem to misbehave occasionally is a bit of a barrier to more than just using sounds in the background blended with the natural bass. I have a learnt a lot in the process and will still use it at home. I have just purchased something from the basses for sale forum that I hope will open up a whole new world of midi. As a result I will need to sell some basses and probably arms and legs but I am sure it was the right decision. I have used a EBS TD650 (now getting repaired) for the last 7 years and have loved it, but some reoccurring faults and finally a dead DI output forced me to purchase a GK MB Fusion 800 to cover some gigs in the last few months. To start with I was not sure, there was something missing, the immediacy of the TD650 was not there. However, I realised the sound of the GK was not worse, just different, and now I am actually really enjoying the GK and band members/audiences have had good things to say. There may be something in the lack of heft for these small heads but once your ears adjust it is not all bad and given time I think the GK is looking like a keeper. OK so not really about effects but it seemed appropriate to follow on from previous post.

Well I suppose it is horses for courses: "It's quite quick sometimes but 'sometimes' doesn't really do the job." I am quite surprised by your comments as I have found it to be very consistent and I suppose because I mainly use a blended signal when playing lower down the neck the attack of my dry signal glosses over any increased latency. Although having said that I am generally a finger funk sort of guy and I really do not find the latency impacts my feel at all. I have played bass for 30+ years and been a Cubase and Ableton user since the early days and find this rig brings together both interests in a live context. As stated in my opening post I have nothing to gain by bringing attention to this software, it is working for me and if you are interested in this sort of set up I think it is worth trying the demo to find out whether your hardware can provide the playability that I feel I am getting. I used the demo for several days and was so persuaded that I paid the money and have not had regrets since + you get access to the vst plugin (can be added as an insert in a audio channel) and if like me you dabble in those six string things the guitar version comes as part of the deal. I am persuaded. However, it might be helpful for others looking in to this subject if anyone else who actually trials this leave comments of their experience, perhaps giving an idea of the hardware they were using. My hardware: RME UCX Laptop Dell XPS 9550 i7

Not been on Basschat for a very long time but recent research into a new amp and cab has led me this way again. The need for a new amp/cab combination has been driven by the following software [url="http://www.jamorigin.com/products/midi-bass/"]http://www.jamorigin...ucts/midi-bass/[/url] It is only in beta and is not polyphonic but has changed the musical landscape for me having been a very traditional no effects sort of guy. It converts your audio signal into midi in realtime. So my set up is as follows: Bass > RME UCX > Laptop > RME UCX > Amp Ableton Set up: 1 audio channel with the midi bass plugin inserted converting my live bass feed into midi As many midi channels as you want with inserted virtual instruments using the midi output from the midi bass plugin inserted o the audio channel.. Each of these channels can be pitch shifted i.e. one synth running at -12 one +12 etc Roland fc-300 midi foot controller: Expression pedal 1 assigned as cross fader between dry and synth outputs. Expression pedal 2 assigned to Filter cut off of all synths I use the other pedals to enable/disable the midi channels/vsti i.e can have one or multiple synths running at the same time. I have a pretty powerful laptop and decent audio interface so others may not be so lucky...but this thing tracks with no perceivable latency! Only been experimenting with this set up for a month at rehearsals for a new band but the potential is awesome. This set up also allows me to add effects to my dry signal. If you like your electronic music and have the kit then I thoroughly recommend giving the demo a try. It could save you a lot of money in hardware pedals if you are not a purist! Now I just need to find a full range, flat response cab for this new setup that can still suit my other bands that prefer my more no effects traditional fretless with flats approach. I have nothing to do with the company just trying to give something back the basschat community.

Great stuff. Not suggesting you guys sound similar the same but have you come accross Men Imitating Machines:

These bassplayers were a genuine influence to my early playing days: Tina Weymouth - Yeah I know already mentioned Kim Deal - Yeah I know already mentioned Leslie Langston - Still playing today but I was influenced by her work with The Throwing Muses (on the House Tornado album in particular) and The Wolfgang Press (the Queer album).

I know the thread is about the service but I just gotta say that my contra II is probably my most useful bit of kit. Originally brought for my db I have now had it 6 years or so and it is great for small rehearsals/gigs on my electric basses as well. It is compact enough that I can walk to local rehearsals but still sounds absolutely fantastic once you get used to adjusting it for different rooms/basses. It has never let me down despite having been used at least 4 times a week and chucked about whilst walking/in the back of the car without a proper carry case. Amazing bit of kit the only down side being if your rehearsal space has non resonate floors (i.e.concrete) as the down firing woofer can then not do its stuff. If it were lost/stolen would I buy another...without hesitation as I would be lost without it. So it appears great service and great products!!

First Bass Owned: Kay P Bass Copy 'Go To' Bass: KSD Proto J 70's 4 String Jazz 'Your' Bass: Fretless P Bass modified with jazz pick-up

[quote name='dmccombe7' post='1158980' date='Mar 12 2011, 08:48 AM']Loved the first clip - very satriani, beck, bruce sounding. What gear were you using for it. Nice sound. 2nd clip looks like a good night was had and the mistake wasn't that bad - honest !!!. On the night, after a few beers it was probably just the band that noticed. LOL !!! Cheers Dave [/quote] Thanks Dave...1st clip was my old ksd proto-J 5 string with the EBS circuit through a Warwick Profet head (provided by the main band so I do not know the model). To be honest what the camera mic is picking up is the foh sound so I would think the direct output from the head had very little colouration and what we are hearing is pretty much just the bass...Can't recommend KSD highly enough for a budget concious way of getting your hands on great playability and reasonable tone. As for the second clip...as you say it was pretty much just the band that would have noticed...apparently according to the audience we were really tight .

Me from a few years back in a very rare rock excursion... And last year after far too many beers. The party was for a close friend who preferred the band to have a good time rather than being our usual professional selves. All it took was a couple of mistakes by me at 3.32 and the whole band is suddenly looking around at each other with those eyes saying "how we gonna get out of this one".